Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 1x09 - "Into the Forest I Go"
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Timo,
Call Pearl Harbor a irrelevant sideshow to an American veteran of WW II and you will get hell for it.
Where are you placing the beginning of the war in the Pacific? For historical purposes, the war began Dec. 8, 1941, the day after Pearl Harbor was attacked. Repulse and Prince of Wales were lost on Dec. 10. Seven months later, the Japanese were on the offensive, after the devastating losses at the Battle of Midway.
TBH, I had more sense of the Dominion War over at DS9, than I have of this war. This is a common complaint I read and hear about DIS is that they have not done enough with the war arc. There are not enough facts about this war for us to form a history of the war. Sometimes, it feels like the Discovery is a cargo ship doing its own thing, using the Pacific War analogy, while the main war is being fought far from it.
I re-watching "Stranger Things". They have episodes of varying lengths, some going nearly as long as 60 minutes. One of the strange things about DIS is that for at least two episodes we know that they had deleted scenes. Why are they averse to extending the episodes with the deleted scenes, especially as they add moments of characterization? Charactization and character developement, or arc, is critical to serialization.
Call Pearl Harbor a irrelevant sideshow to an American veteran of WW II and you will get hell for it.
Where are you placing the beginning of the war in the Pacific? For historical purposes, the war began Dec. 8, 1941, the day after Pearl Harbor was attacked. Repulse and Prince of Wales were lost on Dec. 10. Seven months later, the Japanese were on the offensive, after the devastating losses at the Battle of Midway.
TBH, I had more sense of the Dominion War over at DS9, than I have of this war. This is a common complaint I read and hear about DIS is that they have not done enough with the war arc. There are not enough facts about this war for us to form a history of the war. Sometimes, it feels like the Discovery is a cargo ship doing its own thing, using the Pacific War analogy, while the main war is being fought far from it.
I re-watching "Stranger Things". They have episodes of varying lengths, some going nearly as long as 60 minutes. One of the strange things about DIS is that for at least two episodes we know that they had deleted scenes. Why are they averse to extending the episodes with the deleted scenes, especially as they add moments of characterization? Charactization and character developement, or arc, is critical to serialization.
Time Travel is much easier than Alternate Realities.
Besides, Lorca is smart enough to know that even if he rescues his alt crew, or his alt girlfriend, that the originals are still dead, and if he saves his alt crew, his alt self will be there, with a bigger and better claim to all the relationships Gabe it trying to alt restore.
Besides, Lorca is smart enough to know that even if he rescues his alt crew, or his alt girlfriend, that the originals are still dead, and if he saves his alt crew, his alt self will be there, with a bigger and better claim to all the relationships Gabe it trying to alt restore.
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another stupid question of mine: why do everyone thinks those ar the end are klingon relics?
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Just checked this. When the sequence of jumps is completed, we see that the final jump completed carries the number 133. And when Saru says it will take five minutes to digest the data, we see the start of that same list, and it starts with 001 rather than 000
So not only is Lorca jumping universes, he's performing some time travel on his very own, going back one jump...
Timo Saloniemi
You keep pushing this point, yet people keep proving your opinion to be the minority one. It would appear that there are a lot more people who believe YOUR opinion is madness in this case. Perhaps you should give that some thought before you post the same point yet again in an attempt to question and nullify the validity of people's genuine reactions.
Companies and military organizations reorganize all the time. At one point of this function was clearly assigned to operations as opposed to command. Honestly it makes more sense that helm would be in the same division as engineering.
The war isn't the point of the show. It's a backdrop used to tell the stories your seeing. That's why they aren't spending a bunch of time on meaningless details. It's a setting, a vehicle to set up the relationships and stories. Nothing more.
It's like HBO's The Leftovers. It's not about the event that led to the disappearances...it's about the characters functioning in that world. I for one am grateful we don't have to endure a bunch of fanwanky unimportant details about the outer space wars that are taking place.
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I think a lot of you guys are going to be really disappointed when all of these extremely complex and far-reaching theories turned out to be nothing more than, "Stamets made one too many jumps and now the Discovery is screwed and lost."
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10,000ish people may have died in direct conflict with the Klingons as a result of combat in space. But trillions of lives are on the line if Starfleet defenses crack and the Klingons are able to get into the Federation borders and begin subjugating worlds
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I agree with that.
Well he does do something naughty
But he maybe isn't expecting the end result...
I'm only on Page 15, so I apologize if this has already been addressed What these screen grabs refer to is the last jump in the 133 jumps it took to analyse the cloaked Klingon ship of the dead. I mean, it's right there in that one picture. The interrupt is between 132 and 133.
This is not the last jump that took Discovery to where "no man has gone before" and turned Stamets into a white eyed cosmic being.
Don't get me wrong! I think it's fun to speculate. I just believe that there are a lot of people who are reading far more into the circumstances that there really is.
I would assume that this is a production error then. The team that makes those bridge displays has dropped the ball several times already. They used a Bird of Prey pictogram for both a battlecruiser, and those Klingon Raiders, and the also used a pictogram of the Shinzou for the Gagarin. I think we can add this to the list since the way it was shown it was the final jump that Lorca did the override on.
To a certain degree that's true, or like a long range bomber. Discovery does not have to stay anywhere near the front, and can instead jump back and forth on its black-ops raids. Since Discovery works alone viewers don't get any episodes with fleet strategy. Wish the could have included more new from the front but they have limited time to get what they want done in an episode.
Yet they were only 3 hours away from a Starbase at warp 5.
No, it didn't make sense that Stamets would make "one more jump" after what he endured the last 133 jumps. Not when they were only hours away at warp.
with vengeful cloaked Klingons closing in.
There are many instances in mathematics and computing where counting starts at zero.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zero-based_numbering
Kor
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