Yorktown = Earth, basically.
Sorry I hurt your feelings.
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Seems like wanting to start a war with the Klingons may have been a more rational choice, but we'd done that one already.
Then again, Edison's rationality was something to be questioned. As it is, I can't see how he even thought killing the residents of Yorktown would've ushered in period of violence and war. If anything, as is the case with some blatant acts of terrorism, it may have had the opposite effect, and in this case, drew the Federation members even closer together and even more committed to peace.
If he had killed everyone in Yorktown and taken over the station as a base of future operations, that would not have worked. He would've never had the chance to build it up. With only him and his cabal as residents, Starfleet simply would've put everything it had into destroying Yorktown. End of problem. He was another insane villain who just wanted to see things burn because it made him feel better. His plan held no water.
Well, he most definitely wasn't rational. I don't see how he could've been, after a life like that.
But I would assume his plan was not to use Yorktown as a base, but to kill all the people, steal all the best technology and disappear back into the nebula (having erased the computer logs that would tell the rest of starfleet what happened). Then, with his upgraded fleet, strike randomly throughout the Federation for as long as he could, to try and force people into a fight or flight reaction.
After watching the movie for the second time, I'm still unsure as to what is the main purpose of the weapon artifact that Krall wanted so badly. Judging by how he easily dismantled and destroyed the Enterprise, it seems he already had the capability to invade Yorktown without the artifact. So what was it for? He showed it's power by killing that helpless ensign in the chamber. But that's it. He could still just use the swarms to attack Yorktown..
The swarm destroyed the Enterprise. Krall wanted Yorktown more or less intact, hence a powerful bioweapon that kills the people and not the station.
ETA: He was also waging psychological warfare, so a mysterious attack that kills everyone with minimal damage is more effective than a conventional tactic of just blowing the station up.
Why not just use poison? Why not just cut off the oxygen supply?
Why not use a powerful bioweapon you happen to know about? Where you do you get enough poison without letting people know you exist? How do you guarantee that your attack will actually perfectly cut off the oxygen supply without damaging the station (oxygen supply being generally important and therefore having redundancies)?
The bioweapon was poison and it's dispersal was based on York Towns own air ducts or what ever it was where Krall and Kirk were wrestling. it was hardly perfect compared to ripping 40 thousand holes in the station in less than 3 minutes.
The Mary Celeste?
He wanted to leave a spooky mystery?
What a dick.
Back of my brain I feel an itch about a region of space (No not the expanse from Ent season 3) that normal people had second thoughts about approaching since any other bugger that tried got turned inside out... It feels like a Neelix story.
The Mary Celeste?
He wanted to leave a spooky mystery?
What a dick.
Back of my brain I feel an itch about a region of space (No not the expanse from Ent season 3) that normal people had second thoughts about approaching since any other bugger that tried got turned inside out... It feels like a Neelix story.
As we saw in the movie, that wasn't easy to do.
You would need a shitload of it. And you would have to acquire it somewhere.
Since we've already established he wasn't rational, I'm not sure why his plans needed to be perfect.
Though this discussion has reminded me of one thing that I thought rather weird about the finale: the air vent fight is supposed to happen at the core of the station, hence the gravitational weirdness. So how come there's a door to open space just a few dozen meters away? I mean, I get the usefulness of being able to flush things into space, but there's no way the station hull could be that close to the core.
Though this discussion has reminded me of one thing that I thought rather weird about the finale: the air vent fight is supposed to happen at the core of the station, hence the gravitational weirdness. So how come there's a door to open space just a few dozen meters away? I mean, I get the usefulness of being able to flush things into space, but there's no way the station hull could be that close to the core.
A re-eddit of trials and tribblilations could have Kirk saying to Sisko "Hey! 2161 called, Balthurzar Edison wants his haircut back! HA!"
The movies have this in common, that the less you think about their details the more you'll appreciate them. Take any part of any of the three movies that lasts more than say five minutes and I am sure that I can find something objectionable in it.
I can do that with 90%+ of the over 10,000 movies I've seen in my life. That way lies madness.
I mean something that is starkly inconsistent with something said previously or ridiculously unscientific or simply inept in every conceivable way.
So did I. Trek movies (all of them) are nothing special in that regard.
Sure, but I think that the new ones are even worse. I am thinking for example of drilling a hole to the center of the earth when everybody knows that only a thin crust is actually solid and that the rest is in a liquid state. So it's as ridiculous as drilling a hole in the sea!!!
One could think that. One could also accept that the technology of that drilling apparatus sealed the wall of the hole as it made it as well.
Cracks aside
I think Giacchino's ST09 score was epic. Don't get me wrong, Mr Goldsmith will always ring true as ST's best, but I can't knock the new stuff really at all.
The ancients left mines, tons of equipment, and worker drones. Not hard to dig up and refine some poisonous element.
Magic terraforming torpedo, the creation of a planet where none existed before, the recreation of a person exactly as they were, "God", the Nexus, the Borg traveling across the galaxy before going back in time, fountain of youth radiation. Silliness has been abundant in Star Trek for as long as I've been watching.
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