SG-U – Faith (1x13) - (Discuss – Grade | SPOILERS)

[Harvey]

How large is the Destiny crew, anyway? It's never seemed that large to me, and if they continue with the attrition rate they've been having, they are going to be short on crew sooner rather than later. Not to run the ship, which is mostly done automatically, but to do anything else.

 

[Kaziarl]

It seemed like quite a few at first. Maybe somewhere between 30-50. Obviously not a full crew, but not insignificant either.

After the first episode however, it seems we only see a handful at a time. Perhaps they take shifts?

 

[Star Wolf]

Re: SG-U

How large is the Destiny crew, anyway? It's never seemed that large to me, and if they continue with the attrition rate they've been having, they are going to be short on crew sooner rather than later. Not to run the ship, which is mostly done automatically, but to do anything else.

Like what? Blake had less then 6 aboard Liberator. In Universe SG-1 was normally a 4 man team. All that was someone left to moniter the stargate on Earth.

 

[bryce]

NuAge scientist was eye-rollingly annoying. He's the guy who lost his wife, right? I wonder where *that* fit into his grand fuzzy-wuzzy "everything happens for a reason, it's all a divine Plan" world-view...?

It would have been more interesting (to me) if he wanted to stay behind because of her loss, said something like "I have no one back home...no one and nothing to go back to...there's nothing back on Earth for me but pain, and constant reminders of her everywhere I turn. I'd rather stay here...a million galaxies away...I'm finally at peace here."

Or something like that. (But, you know, better written.)

And why are skeptical characters always played as assholes!? Well, I guess we can be...but the reaction he got from the others when he suggested that shit just happens...is the one we skeptics always get...


And I would love to get back into Lost...but I stopped watching at the start of season two, and just don't have the energy to catch back up...if I started re-watching the current season now, I fear I'd just be...um...lost.

 

[Yoda]

. Oh well, at least the doc's crying at the end of the episode makes more sense, and was way less over the top than Lt. Jugs a while back. In fact, where was jugs? She seemed the least well adjusted out of anyone to being trapped on Destiny, you'd think she would've figured into the should we stay or should we go argument a little.

James is just a 2nd LT, it seems she is not in the decision making council. She was on the ship and the CO already said his troops were staying when he decided to let any civilians stay. What was missing was seeing any more civilians attempt to jump ship when Col Young flew the second shuttle down to Eden.

I don't mean from an actual decision-making standpoint, more of a "I want to go the planet" followed by "I want to stay, because on Destiny I just cry a lot" perspective. It just seems like she should be the poster girl for wanting to get off destiny.

 

[arch101]

I like to be surprised and I'm not very often from sci-fi shows. When Scott offered to stay, I was surprised. I understood his reasons, and like the noble side to his personality that was revealed by his wanting to protect the other people who wanted to stay. I'm also looking forward to Rush and Young's chess games. I'm glad the Stargate people have learned that all-important BSG lesson: that not all things need to be explained. Leave something to the imagination.

 

[Othello]

And it was interesting that Rush and Young were in agreement. I like that they're both mellowing a bit. Not going to be best buddies, but a slow respect over time as they settle in: They find a robot, Young wants it checked out, Rush says he's too busy, Young accepts that.

I wouldn't assume that's the case. Rush may very well know from the DB what it is and just wants to work on it without Young knowing.

 

[Harvey]

Re: SG-U

How large is the Destiny crew, anyway? It's never seemed that large to me, and if they continue with the attrition rate they've been having, they are going to be short on crew sooner rather than later. Not to run the ship, which is mostly done automatically, but to do anything else.

Like what? Blake had less then 6 aboard Liberator. In Universe SG-1 was normally a 4 man team. All that was someone left to moniter the stargate on Earth.

Haven't seen Blake's 7, so I can't comment. But when it comes to SG-1, they always had plenty of back-up when they needed it: scientists, diplomats, doctors, and lots and lots of soldiers. The Destiny crew has no back-up whatsoever.

 

[Harvey]

It would have been more interesting (to me) if he wanted to stay behind because of her loss, said something like "I have no one back home...no one and nothing to go back to...there's nothing back on Earth for me but pain, and constant reminders of her everywhere I turn. I'd rather stay here...a million galaxies away...I'm finally at peace here."

Or something like that. (But, you know, better written.)

Not a bad idea, but I think they're saving that sort of back story for a different character.

 

[Robert Maxwell]

Well, this was better than "Divided," but that's not saying much.

Somebody should tell the people producing this show that music montages are only effective when used in moderation. Using them in every damn episode gets old. We're, what, 3 episodes into this half of the season, and I think all of them have had a montage? Give it a rest, people!

This was a quiet, personal episode, and I appreciate the attempt by the writers to branch out, but too much time was spent on one-off characters. I also think the decision to stay on the planet is remarkably shortsighted. Sure, Destiny isn't in great shape, but the ship has a wealth of technology they can leverage to stay alive, should they live long enough to analyze it. I don't see the planet being anything more than death trap, no matter how beautiful it is.

It also rang completely false to me, the notion that "God" (or some other superpowerful force) built this solar system specifically so they'd stumble across it and settle there. Come on. That sort of argument just doesn't do anything for me. Stay on the planet because you think you'd have a better life there, not because you think [deity/superalien] wants you to. Or stay because Destiny is falling apart and if you're gonna die away from home, you'd rather do it somewhere idyllic and peaceful, and not on an ancient Ancient rustbucket.

 

[Silvercrest]

I was hoping aliens showed up or that something substantial with the obelisk happened. Maybe I'm being too much of an "action loving fanboy" but is it really asking too much for something to happen?

I don't think this is supposed to be an action show.

And what's so great about the planet, anyway. True, I'm not an outdoors person, but I fail to see why after only a few months so many people would be willing to give up their chance to ever return home just to live in a picture-perfect forest and be one with nature or whatever. No, I'm not buying it.

Depends on how afraid you are of flying around in a million-year-old leaky ship, on the verge of starving to death, and under the guns of the military. Some people might see anything as preferable.

First of all, the planet drama did not work for me. "It was our fate to find this planet"? Seriously? I was rolling my eyes and groaning everytime they went on with that crap.

It also rang completely false to me, the notion that "God" (or some other superpowerful force) built this solar system specifically so they'd stumble across it and settle there. Come on. That sort of argument just doesn't do anything for me.

Geez, guys, it's not like the show is forcing the viewpoint down your throats. One character was saying all that, and apparently most of the other characters disagreed with him too. Otherwise they would have stayed.

I will say, that Sgt. Greer is really starting to grow on me.

Same here!

 

[TiberiusMaximus]

I really like Greer, and the moment when he told the soldier and the civilian they both had to dig the latrine was priceless!

 

[broberfett]

Could somebody good with the screen captures put up picks of who stayed?

 

[cylkoth]

^^ They never showed who stayed behind...

 

[The Wormhole]

I was hoping aliens showed up or that something substantial with the obelisk happened. Maybe I'm being too much of an "action loving fanboy" but is it really asking too much for something to happen?

I don't think this is supposed to be an action show.

Oh, I get that it's not an action show. But that still doesn't mean that it's okay for nothing to happen. I jsut want something to happen, make the episodes interesting. Don't get me wrong, character drama has its merits, when it's good. But boring the audience is not compelling character drama.

True, SG teams running through Vancouver's pine forest firing P-90s got tiresome, but at least it was something happening.

 

[broberfett]

^^ They never showed who stayed behind...

So the only guy we know that stayed was that religious guy that appeared out of nowhere a couple episodes ago? We know that no military stayed. So who was standing with the faith based dude when they were picking teams?

 

[Star Wolf]

^^ They never showed who stayed behind...

So the only guy we know that stayed was that religious guy that appeared out of nowhere a couple episodes ago? We know that no military stayed. So who was standing with the faith based dude when they were picking teams?

Red shirts

 

[Hyperspace05]

As far as I could tell - All civilians except two (the skeptic and Chloe) stayed behind. It looked like 15-20 people.

 

[Robert Maxwell]

It also rang completely false to me, the notion that "God" (or some other superpowerful force) built this solar system specifically so they'd stumble across it and settle there. Come on. That sort of argument just doesn't do anything for me.

Geez, guys, it's not like the show is forcing the viewpoint down your throats. One character was saying all that, and apparently most of the other characters disagreed with him too. Otherwise they would have stayed.

I find it hard to believe any kind of scientist would buy into such bunk. Not believing in God, exactly--there are plenty of scientists who do--but coming to this off-the-wall conclusion that God built this place for them to find and settle down on! I mean, !

I really like Greer, though. He's hilarious. I'm also waiting for Rush to have another meltdown, because those are entertaining.

 

[Star Wolf]

It also rang completely false to me, the notion that "God" (or some other superpowerful force) built this solar system specifically so they'd stumble across it and settle there. Come on. That sort of argument just doesn't do anything for me.

Geez, guys, it's not like the show is forcing the viewpoint down your throats. One character was saying all that, and apparently most of the other characters disagreed with him too. Otherwise they would have stayed.

I find it hard to believe any kind of scientist would buy into such bunk. Not believing in God, exactly--there are plenty of scientists who do--but coming to this off-the-wall conclusion that God built this place for them to find and settle down on! I mean, !

I really like Greer, though. He's hilarious. I'm also waiting for Rush to have another meltdown, because those are entertaining.

Was Caine, Dr. Caine? I thought he was just an computer technician. However we are showing are Dawkinian prejudices here. Sort of like Governor Ventura saying religion is the sign of a weak mind. To the Christian world Saul became Paul in an instant. We don't know Caine went into this as an atheist/agnostic when he found his Garden of Eden. What do we know about him? He turned down the opportunity to bunk with 2nd LT James, perhaps an existing faith base was the unsaid reason.