Well the Tollan and Aschen weren't really super-advanced. Sure they were more advanced than we were, but they were no where near the level of the Ancients or Asgard.
SG-U – Faith (1x13) - (Discuss – Grade | SPOILERS)
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The Tollan built their own stargate, they may not be in Ancient territory, but that's pretty darned close.
Average. I'm sorry, I don't get what everyone is on about.
First of all, the planet drama did not work for me. "It was our fate to find this planet"? Seriously? I was rolling my eyes and groaning everytime they went on with that crap. And what's so great about the planet, anyway. True, I'm not an outdoors person, but I fail to see why after only a few months so many people would be willing to give up their chance to ever return home just to live in a picture-perfect forest and be one with nature or whatever. No, I'm not buying it.
I was hoping aliens showed up or that something substantial with the obelisk happened. Maybe I'm being too much of an "action loving fanboy" but is it really asking too much for something to happen? As opposed to spedn forty minutes doign shit all and walking away not answering any of the questions raised? Oh, I'm sure they're setting up for future episodes, but to be honest this kind of serialization annoys me. I think I miss situation of the week type stories
TJ's pregnancy was predictable, and Young being the father was obvious. I realize this is partly because the actress was pregnant, but it still seems like a cliched soap opera thing. But, hey.
I will say, that Sgt. Greer is really starting to grow on me. Eating that fruit upon finding it was really cool, and him forcing the other soldier and Chief Laird, err, the scientist to dig the outhouse together "in the spirit of cooperation" is I think SGU's first joke since O'Neill made fun of Eli in the pilot.
First of all, the planet drama did not work for me. "It was our fate to find this planet"? Seriously? I was rolling my eyes and groaning everytime they went on with that crap. And what's so great about the planet, anyway. True, I'm not an outdoors person, but I fail to see why after only a few months so many people would be willing to give up their chance to ever return home just to live in a picture-perfect forest and be one with nature or whatever. No, I'm not buying it.
I was hoping aliens showed up or that something substantial with the obelisk happened. Maybe I'm being too much of an "action loving fanboy" but is it really asking too much for something to happen? As opposed to spedn forty minutes doign shit all and walking away not answering any of the questions raised? Oh, I'm sure they're setting up for future episodes, but to be honest this kind of serialization annoys me. I think I miss situation of the week type stories
TJ's pregnancy was predictable, and Young being the father was obvious. I realize this is partly because the actress was pregnant, but it still seems like a cliched soap opera thing. But, hey.
I will say, that Sgt. Greer is really starting to grow on me. Eating that fruit upon finding it was really cool, and him forcing the other soldier and Chief Laird, err, the scientist to dig the outhouse together "in the spirit of cooperation" is I think SGU's first joke since O'Neill made fun of Eli in the pilot.
They defeated the Go'uld. It was mentioned in the episode 2010. It didn't seem like it was that hard for them. SG-1 changed the future so it didn't happen. They seemed pretty advanced.
Here's why I liked it... We were immersed into a world and a mystery that felt truely grand, we were left with a feeling that this is what would happen if real people were in such a situation, and we were allowed to let our imaginations run wild with speculation along with the characters. We wouldn't have gotten much, if any of this, if the story were given the action/adventure treatment with everything solved in 40 minutes.
Yes, those moments with Greer were pretty funny. He's growing on me too.
I should point out that among several advanced species, memorializing a crucial battle that took place in deep space requires the construction of a solar system and a suitable planet to anchor the obligatory obelisk and inscription, plus providing parking spaces for tourist ships.
I haven't really paid much attention to this (sub-)forum as I wanted to make up my own mind about the series before getting involved in any debates about it.
Took me this long because of the -generally- low quality of writing and the distance between acceptably good episodes.
I have now -due to this ep- finally given up on this series.
Still love a lot of the OST though, and I might be persuaded back by something I read in this very forum -which I now feel free to explore- but when SciFi crosses the line into fantasy (without redeeming qualities (such as them being Bajorans and very primitive so of course they're religious)) then I'm off.
I sincerely hope that something I find in threads around here will pull me back in as I think the 'no way home'-scenario is fascinating and the production values and acting in SG:U should keep me watching - but the writing just puts me off again and again.
Sorry if I offended anyone, but this show clearly isn't for me.
Took me this long because of the -generally- low quality of writing and the distance between acceptably good episodes.
I have now -due to this ep- finally given up on this series.
Still love a lot of the OST though, and I might be persuaded back by something I read in this very forum -which I now feel free to explore- but when SciFi crosses the line into fantasy (without redeeming qualities (such as them being Bajorans and very primitive so of course they're religious)) then I'm off.
I sincerely hope that something I find in threads around here will pull me back in as I think the 'no way home'-scenario is fascinating and the production values and acting in SG:U should keep me watching - but the writing just puts me off again and again.
Sorry if I offended anyone, but this show clearly isn't for me.
I thought this one was pretty good, and I too like not having all the answers at the end of the episode. Hopefully at some point down the road we'll find something out about these Preservers (sorry, bad joke).
TJs pregnancy... hmm... well if it's handled well within the show could be interesting. Otherwise it will be a tired cliche. I hadn't personally noticed much making me think she was pregnant before, so i guess i'm just not that observant. Plus, I don't really read about actors lives. It's their personal business so far as I'm concerned. (ET for example is a horribly invasive media in my opinion)
After the last episode, it was good to see Chloe and Matt talk again. I was worried that their relationship would be the token "Pretty girl, pretty boy" couple, but so far it's not as bad as some others.
It seems that Young and Rusch have gotten into this "Respectful Hatred" phase between each other. I think that could be interesting in the near future as well.
TJs pregnancy... hmm... well if it's handled well within the show could be interesting. Otherwise it will be a tired cliche. I hadn't personally noticed much making me think she was pregnant before, so i guess i'm just not that observant. Plus, I don't really read about actors lives. It's their personal business so far as I'm concerned. (ET for example is a horribly invasive media in my opinion)
After the last episode, it was good to see Chloe and Matt talk again. I was worried that their relationship would be the token "Pretty girl, pretty boy" couple, but so far it's not as bad as some others.
It seems that Young and Rusch have gotten into this "Respectful Hatred" phase between each other. I think that could be interesting in the near future as well.
This one was easily the first decent episode of the series. 4/5 or 8/10 on the old scale for me.
I could have gone without TJ's pregnancy, which seems like it would have come up in a previous episode, but I understand that real life interrupted the show in this case.
The new age scientist (Apparently his name is Caine, although I had to look that up on wikipedia to remember it) was also pretty grating--and it's no wonder he appeared out of nowhere a few episodes ago. The writers wanted to sacrifice a scientist without actually losing one. Like the two people who disappeared in Air, Part III I wonder if he'll ever be referenced again?
Still, this episode had the first musical montage which wasn't inept, and finally let the crew act like professionals, more or less. If only they could have been acting like this from the get go, instead of forcing 12 episodes of adolescent angst upon us first.
The location was absolutely beautiful, though of course it was previously used on Galactica (and, if I'm not mistaken, was the planet in Paradise Lost on SG-1). I wish a little more (any?) time had been spent with the obelisk, which is supposed to be pretty amazing, but we never see up close in the finished episode.
I'll stop complaining, though. This is a good baseline. Let's see it get better from here if the show wants to keep me past season one.
I could have gone without TJ's pregnancy, which seems like it would have come up in a previous episode, but I understand that real life interrupted the show in this case.
The new age scientist (Apparently his name is Caine, although I had to look that up on wikipedia to remember it) was also pretty grating--and it's no wonder he appeared out of nowhere a few episodes ago. The writers wanted to sacrifice a scientist without actually losing one. Like the two people who disappeared in Air, Part III I wonder if he'll ever be referenced again?
Still, this episode had the first musical montage which wasn't inept, and finally let the crew act like professionals, more or less. If only they could have been acting like this from the get go, instead of forcing 12 episodes of adolescent angst upon us first.
The location was absolutely beautiful, though of course it was previously used on Galactica (and, if I'm not mistaken, was the planet in Paradise Lost on SG-1). I wish a little more (any?) time had been spent with the obelisk, which is supposed to be pretty amazing, but we never see up close in the finished episode.
I'll stop complaining, though. This is a good baseline. Let's see it get better from here if the show wants to keep me past season one.
Don't worry, it was only Desmond.
This is how proper character-based drama should be handled -- looks like the SGU writers are learning to handle non-action drama better.
Average.
Better than last week, but that's not much of a hurdle to clear. So we didn't know the doc was pregnant? I can't say I'm too interested in her relationship with the commander. I thought Telford messing with his wife was a more interesting plot... but that turned pretty stupid with Young using Telford's body to sleep with her (Once again, WTF?). Oh well, at least the doc's crying at the end of the episode makes more sense, and was way less over the top than Lt. Jugs a while back. In fact, where was jugs? She seemed the least well adjusted out of anyone to being trapped on Destiny, you'd think she would've figured into the should we stay or should we go argument a little.
Anyway, it was pretty vague as to whether anyone stayed behind. They kind of implied that the true believers stayed, after all Young didn't bother to give them the heartfelt "we need you" speech like he did to his cast members
, the dialogue on the ship was a bit ambiguous as well. I didn't see anything in there that would necessarily contradict the interpretation that young convinced the important people, and the unimportant ones gave up once they didn't feel they had critical mass for their colony. I mean, if it's down to me and two other dudes, or whatever the numbers were, I'd be inclined to just say "Fuck it!", kind of like that useless lump Chloe.
Speaking of the True Believer... god that guy was obnoxious.
As for the montages, I still think they suck. I really don't dig the songs they're picking.
The scene with Young and Rush near the end was pretty good, I thought. Especially Rush's facial expressions.
Oh, to you people who watch SGU but not Lost, you really got to work on your time management priorities
Better than last week, but that's not much of a hurdle to clear. So we didn't know the doc was pregnant? I can't say I'm too interested in her relationship with the commander. I thought Telford messing with his wife was a more interesting plot... but that turned pretty stupid with Young using Telford's body to sleep with her (Once again, WTF?). Oh well, at least the doc's crying at the end of the episode makes more sense, and was way less over the top than Lt. Jugs a while back. In fact, where was jugs? She seemed the least well adjusted out of anyone to being trapped on Destiny, you'd think she would've figured into the should we stay or should we go argument a little.
Anyway, it was pretty vague as to whether anyone stayed behind. They kind of implied that the true believers stayed, after all Young didn't bother to give them the heartfelt "we need you" speech like he did to his cast members
, the dialogue on the ship was a bit ambiguous as well. I didn't see anything in there that would necessarily contradict the interpretation that young convinced the important people, and the unimportant ones gave up once they didn't feel they had critical mass for their colony. I mean, if it's down to me and two other dudes, or whatever the numbers were, I'd be inclined to just say "Fuck it!", kind of like that useless lump Chloe.Speaking of the True Believer... god that guy was obnoxious.
As for the montages, I still think they suck. I really don't dig the songs they're picking.
The scene with Young and Rush near the end was pretty good, I thought. Especially Rush's facial expressions.
Oh, to you people who watch SGU but not Lost, you really got to work on your time management priorities
. Oh well, at least the doc's crying at the end of the episode makes more sense, and was way less over the top than Lt. Jugs a while back. In fact, where was jugs? She seemed the least well adjusted out of anyone to being trapped on Destiny, you'd think she would've figured into the should we stay or should we go argument a little.
Anyway, it was pretty vague as to whether anyone stayed behind. They kind of implied that the true believers stayed, after all Young didn't bother to give them the heartfelt "we need you" speech like he did to his cast members
Speaking of the True Believer... god that guy was obnoxious.
James is just a 2nd LT, it seems she is not in the decision making council
. She was on the ship and the CO already said his troops were staying when he decided to let any civilians stay. What was missing was seeing any more civilians attempt to jump ship when Col Young flew the second shuttle down to Eden.Unlike Janaway, Young really doesn't need a critical mass of skills and crew. Destiny survived just as well without the humans. She just needed to recharge her air scrubbers, water and food supplies when they arrived.
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