Discussion in 'Star Trek: Discovery' started by Vger23, Jan 19, 2019.
When she starts cataloging those dark matter rocks, will she name it the obsidian order?
BABAY, nothing prepares you for Seal's diss in a roast by the bay.
Ooh, the more insults I get, the worse that it feels, yeeah
Wow, this has-been selkie's a douche
I might club this Seal in the face
It turns out Pike never took over Discovery, and the "Pike" we know is just an Angel in disguise who is using Discovery to get back to its people, who have sent him on some kind of scavenger hunt.
It'll turn out that Spock has Pike safely locked in storage somewhere.
Easier to do when they had 24 episodes a season. Even 15 isn't really enough to go off on any whole-episode tangents.
we had at least one in season one and honestly I could do witout meaningless self-contained filler episodes
The producers had said this season would explore faith vs science
And that Burnham helps Spock become who he is in TOS (or something like that)
And of course who he is is rigidly logical
So, Spock has these nightmares, thinks he understands that these things are spiritual angels, wants them to show him the meaning of life, eventually finds out that they’re not, instead someone dies as a result, he eschews faith and sentiment forever, becomes logical Spock
That’s my guess
Perhaps the space tardigrades are the larval stage of the red angels.
I'm still thinking it is Lorca, especially considering both Burnham and Spock has seen or dreamed about it.
Lorca became semi-omnipotent thanks to the Mycelium fireball he was thrown into. He has stewed for thousands of years for a chance at revenge against Burnham and her family.
I hope he has a beard he can stroke while cackling about revenge.
I think she was having a real vision of one before Pike ran in and snapped her out of it. The figure had tentacles sticking out the back that gave the appearance of wings, hence the "Red Angel" name. I don't think Pike, even in a spacesuit, could be mistaken for a red angel.
I think these things are aliens trying to understand the concept of faith, and so in true Star Trek fashion, have decided that experimenting on other sentient beings is the best way to explore it.
From Doug Jones' interview on TrekMovie
And these seven signals in the sky, scattered throughout the galaxy … every time we follow one, there’s something to be fixed, a catastrophe to be remedied. And are they connected? That’s a question.
dammit, I was just about to post that...
I don’t think they can do the whole “Captain isn’t who they think he is” thing again. Can they? CAN THEY?!?
Kind of like Quantum Leap in space? Shame Dean Stockwell isn’t around anymore to pop up and offer advice...
I think it’s significant showing Lorca’s demise in the S1 recap at the beginning of the episode, so feel he might indeed be involved...
No one would think they would do it twice in a row. It would subvert our expectations.
I thought that was suspicious too. Maybe Mirror Lorca doesn't have something to do with this, but maybe Prime Lorca is one in need of rescuing... or made contact with the Red Angels. Hell, how cool would it be if the Red Angels were actually part of the Mycellial Network being led by Mirror Lorca, who pretty much became a god after dying the in the Mirror Universe, locked in a battle with Prime Lorca (who we'll discover was killed in a similar fashion by Captain Killy in our universe )
Connecting Burnham's telling of the african creation myth at the beginning of "Brother" with what we know about the Iconians, my guess is that they visited Earth and at least many Alpha and Beta quadrant planets in the past. They might be the origin of many religions and legends, among them the tale of the Klingons killing their gods. Which may play a role when the Klingons appear in this season.
It's the Archangel Michael trying to break into another universe to get Chuck's attention.
I don't know where the Iconian stuff came from. They aren't fully revealed until the 24th century. Up until then, they were just a myth. Plus they use doorways to get around.
Also, if the Enterprise is infected with an Iconian virus, shouldn't it have blown up?
Doesn't the design for the iconians from Star Trek Online look similar to the Red Angels?
I believe this season is the time when the Federation first hears of them, which leads to the archaeological search for relics of them, we heard about in "Contagion".
They may have evolved in the time after they used gateways to get around.
Them using a STO design seems very unlikely.
They have that “aliens from another universe” vibe to them. I bet using the spore Drive has done something so that they can breach through.
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