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Paramount Confirms TWO Star Trek films currently in the works!
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Question is are they both time travel movies? Clarkson's brings back George Kirk and QT allegedly wants to adapt either The City on the Edge of Forever or Yesterday's Enterprise.
Also, is QT a new universe or even a return to the post TNG timeline? Could familiar faces return?
So many questions!
Also, is QT a new universe or even a return to the post TNG timeline? Could familiar faces return?
So many questions!
I think you answered your own question. If it's an adaptation/remake, it has to be a new continuity. The same thing wouldn't happen twice in the same reality.
Even if Tarantino does something that isn't prime or Kelvin Universe I wonder if he will still use Kelvin Universe Actors and maybe Shatner or Patrick Stewart. "Logan" for example some say wasn't connected to the "X-Men" movies but of course they still used Jackman and Stewart again.
Jason
Jason
I think it's possible that QT's film will feature entirely new characters and a new ship we've never seen.
QT could take the general concept of a classic episode and rework it in a way to maximize creative freedom. He could give us a one-off adventure of a crew that we only see once.
QT could take the general concept of a classic episode and rework it in a way to maximize creative freedom. He could give us a one-off adventure of a crew that we only see once.
I'm kinda thinking it'll be a one-off adventure for a Kirk and crew we only see once.
I love how you Klingon to this idea
I find that an offensive idea. Death is not "prestigious." It's a sad and ugly and arbitrary thing. Dressing it up and pretending it's something glamorous and cool is dishonest.
Kirk gave his life saving others. He did his duty. That's all that would matter to him. It's already as "proper" as it could be.
Besides, "Yesterday's Enterprise" totally bungled its attempt to give Tasha a "better" death. First of all, the idea that there was anything pointless or unworthy about Tasha's death is offensive. She gave her life trying to save someone else. That's a noble and worthwhile thing even if she failed. Saying that it was pointless because she didn't succeed is an insult to every firefighter or police officer or rescue worker who died trying to save lives. Armus killing her was pointless, but Tasha giving her life was not. "Skin of Evil" portrayed the cold, arbitrary reality of death honestly rather than dressing it up with deceptive glamor and spectacle. Then "Yesterday's Enterprise" came along and tried to give Tasha a more "noble" death by sending her back in time -- but then "Redemption" gave her a far more ignoble, awful fate by saying that she was captured and raped and sexually enslaved to her captor for years... and then got killed trying and failing to save her own daughter, so basically she still died the same way anyway, but in a way that was far, far more degrading to her. By trying to make her death "better," they made it infinitely worse.
So, no, thank you. A "Yesterday's Enterprise" treatment for Kirk's death is not something I want to see.
Had not thought of Tasha's death that way. Yeah, "Yesterday's Enterprise" suddenly becomes very awkward with implications of Tasha's death.
I honestly never got the complaints regarding her death. GR's point was that it seemed "pointless" for Armus to kill because sometimes people die without the glamour and the spectacle.
Shatner returns as Kirk? Would be great but how could they retcon that with his death in Generations? And also the fact that he has changed a helluva lot since 1994!
JB
JB
Kirk had a twin half brother that didn’t die on Veridian 3. Didn’t you know?
George?
JB
JB
Now we know what happened to James R. Kirk. Glad that mystery's finally been solved.
No Shatner please, time to move on
I can already see it. We recreate the bar fight scene from "Star Trek" where Pine gets into a fight. We see Pine sitting with tissue up his nose and everything and end walks William Shatner as Kirk. "We got to talk" says Shatner's Kirk with a eye patch and a black robotic arm and thus ends the first spoiled clip to be released to the internet.
Jason
Jason
Mercy, it is just a movie. It may not be something you want to see but it is me, just a difference of opinion that's all. No need to get bent out of shape, it is only a movie and we are batting around some ideas.
That's entirely possible.
If so, then that will be the future of the big screen franchise: Kirk/Spock Trek will be endlessly re-booted throughout a limitless number of new timelines....James Bond with a sci-fantasy twist. That approach inherently creates some of its own problems and limits though.
But if QT goes with something wholly new, suddenly the franchise is wide open for a limitless range of creative possibilities.
The marketing power of the TOS crew and the Enterprise is undeniable though.
Either way, if Paramount is sharp and serious about Trek, they'll try to parlay the success of Tarantino to attract other elite filmmakers on the level of QT. Trek could become more attractive to other big time directors if QT-Trek is a hit, and they too could have that level of creative freedom....and they might all want the TOS crew too.
Will be interesting to see how it plays out...
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