I was reminded by episode 7, it was Rachel seeing the Messenger through her (now former) electric eye. Of course we now know why she was seeing things through that thing.
Orphan Black Season 5 - The Final Trip
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I was reminded by episode 7, it was Rachel seeing the Messenger through her (now former) electric eye. Of course we now know why she was seeing things through that thing.
I probably should be bawling but that was a hell of a last scene. This episode was just as good if not better than last week.
Sometimes being a writer works against me -- I realized several minutes in advance who they were probably going to kill off, because of the story structure. Things were just going too well for Sarah, Felix, and their family. It guaranteed that a shoe was about to drop. So when it happened, it didn't surprise me.
Although it didn't convince me either.
It was nice to see Helena's kindness to Gracie, the way she accepted her as family. Too bad that didn't turn out better.
Although it didn't convince me either.
How did a veteran fighter like Siobhan, who knew an attack might come and whom we'd seen preparing her guns in advance, let Ferdinand get the drop on her like that? How could she have been so negligent as to assume he wouldn't have a second gun? How is it that the one moment her deviousness and survival skills failed her was the exact moment when she needed them most? It was very contrived.
It was nice to see Helena's kindness to Gracie, the way she accepted her as family. Too bad that didn't turn out better.
Gracie and Siobhan. 
Who cares about surprise? Sure, I was tensely waiting for the other shoe to drop the whole time, too, but that doesn't take away from the devastation of losing both Gracie and Siobhan.
I was so happy that Helena quickly trusted Gracie, in ways that Sarah didn't with Siobhan and Delphine, so her death was especially a gut punch. It's a pity that Gracie returned from such a long absence only to die so quickly.
Siobhan's death was even worse because of Felix's loving speech to her and his family. Maybe her death was contrived but I don't think it matters. She knew she was going into an ugly situation by facing off with a pissed-off Ferdinand. Perhaps she saw that situation as a sacrifice as means to protect her family. Yeah, she probably knew there was the strong possibility that Ferdinand would just kill her outright, but perhaps she was banking on the fact that Ferdinand likes to gloat. Does that make it even more contrived? Maybe so, but I still don't think it matters. At least Ferdinand is finally dead.
This whole episode was beautiful, but especially Felix's gallery. Each of the portraits, the performance art of clone swapping, the quiet moment of acknowledgement for Beth, the one grand moment of happiness for Felix, and most of all, his dedication to family. It's no coincidence that most of my favorite current shows have the strong running theme of family (The Americans, Sense8, Transparent, Orange is the New Black, Better Call Saul), but none of them with the possible exception of The Americans handles that theme better than Orphan Black. The Clone Club and its extended family is what makes this show so special.
Who cares about surprise? Sure, I was tensely waiting for the other shoe to drop the whole time, too, but that doesn't take away from the devastation of losing both Gracie and Siobhan.
I was so happy that Helena quickly trusted Gracie, in ways that Sarah didn't with Siobhan and Delphine, so her death was especially a gut punch. It's a pity that Gracie returned from such a long absence only to die so quickly.
Siobhan's death was even worse because of Felix's loving speech to her and his family. Maybe her death was contrived but I don't think it matters. She knew she was going into an ugly situation by facing off with a pissed-off Ferdinand. Perhaps she saw that situation as a sacrifice as means to protect her family. Yeah, she probably knew there was the strong possibility that Ferdinand would just kill her outright, but perhaps she was banking on the fact that Ferdinand likes to gloat. Does that make it even more contrived? Maybe so, but I still don't think it matters. At least Ferdinand is finally dead.
This whole episode was beautiful, but especially Felix's gallery. Each of the portraits, the performance art of clone swapping, the quiet moment of acknowledgement for Beth, the one grand moment of happiness for Felix, and most of all, his dedication to family. It's no coincidence that most of my favorite current shows have the strong running theme of family (The Americans, Sense8, Transparent, Orange is the New Black, Better Call Saul), but none of them with the possible exception of The Americans handles that theme better than Orphan Black. The Clone Club and its extended family is what makes this show so special.
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^You said "Felix" when you meant "Ferdinand" a couple of times there.
Come to think of it, they found a novel approach to a clone swap -- Alison and Cosima were pretending to be Sarah pretending to be them. So they played her by playing themselves.
Come to think of it, they found a novel approach to a clone swap -- Alison and Cosima were pretending to be Sarah pretending to be them. So they played her by playing themselves.
It's awesome how this show kinda used art (very subtly) to tell this story and how we got some nice payoff last night with it. Whether it was literal art (from Felix) or just the art of the clone swap, the way it was handled last night was really well done in that it showed the show's history and the fact that we're close to the end.
As for Mrs. S and Gracie, Gracie was more of a gut punch than Mrs. S was. I think it was because they basically said we're killing S with Felix's speech but Gracie's was more spontaneous. It was sad they both were killed but at least S went out in a blaze of glory. That kind of hid the whole obviousness of it, and made up for what @Christopher said above. I too hate when they just build up drama for a character death that feels out of character.
As for Mrs. S and Gracie, Gracie was more of a gut punch than Mrs. S was. I think it was because they basically said we're killing S with Felix's speech but Gracie's was more spontaneous. It was sad they both were killed but at least S went out in a blaze of glory. That kind of hid the whole obviousness of it, and made up for what @Christopher said above. I too hate when they just build up drama for a character death that feels out of character.
Oops, thanks for that. Got my wires crossed.
I forgot to mention that it's a testament to this season, particularly the last two episodes, that I was genuinely concerned that Ferdinand was going to kill Rachel. Thankfully he backed off.
Oops, thanks for that. Got my wires crossed.
I forgot to mention that it's a testament to this season, particularly the last two episodes, that I was genuinely concerned that Ferdinand was going to kill Rachel. Thankfully he backed off.
If you would have said that at the end of last season I would have been really shocked.
They've really done a great job writing Rachel this season.
And so would have I. The writing for Rachel has always been great but this season has taken it up a notch.
I'm still of the opinion that there's no way in hell they wrap up everything in two more episodes.
There have been so many layers thus far, I have no doubt there are even more people and companies out there with a hand in this. Maybe even the real P.T. Westmoreland controlling things from afar, or some other uber powerful person.
Probably a whole 'nother batch of Castors we never saw. Even more Ledas that are under someone's control too.
I'm really hoping for at least a TV movie or two in the future. Pound for pound, the best TV show I've ever seen.
There have been so many layers thus far, I have no doubt there are even more people and companies out there with a hand in this. Maybe even the real P.T. Westmoreland controlling things from afar, or some other uber powerful person.
Probably a whole 'nother batch of Castors we never saw. Even more Ledas that are under someone's control too.
I'm really hoping for at least a TV movie or two in the future. Pound for pound, the best TV show I've ever seen.
I was actually thinking the opposite -- now that they've exposed "Westmoreland" as a fraud and made all of Neolution's crimes public, and now that Ferdinand's gone and Rachel's pretty much redeemed herself, I'm wondering who's left to be the bad guys. I guess Coady is the main threat left to deal with, along with Enger (Elyse Levesque's character who just captured Helena). And Mathieson/"Westmoreland" probably still has Coady's allegiance even if they've lost the Neolution board. So I guess the primary problem that remains is rescuing Helena and the babies from those three. Although it seems likely that Kira will end up in danger for the climax, perhaps along with Charlotte.
I was thinking along the lines of people we haven't heard of. Every season so far, there has been another layer, another level beyond what we knew about. It's a worldwide conspiracy.
Yeah, but it's the end of the series now. They're not going to add a whole new layer so close to the conclusion -- that's just not how story structure works. It's called an arc for a reason. Before, the show kept adding more threads and elements, but now it's doing the reverse. The plot threads are getting resolved one by one, the distractions being pared away, and things are going to get streamlined down to the ultimate core conflict. The worldwide conspiracy has already been addressed with Felix and Adele's offscreen investigation and dealt with through Cosima's publication of the information S got from Rachel.
So you don't think they would leave some wiggle room for a potential movie later on?
They could do that, of course, but it shouldn't be in a way that would just leave this series open-ended and unresolved. There are plenty of ways to wrap up one story satisfactorily and still leave room for a possible different story later on. You don't have to sacrifice one story's ending to allow another story to be told. Especially if that other story is just hypothetical.
Yeah, more than one way they could go about it. I could see something like, in the last 5 seconds of episode 10, some unseen person opening a cryo-freezer to reveal some tubes marked "Leda Mk.2". It would be in line with the kind of mind-fucks we've had from the show.
I've resigned myself to the fact that we are not going to see Cal again. In fact a lot of those open ended things are more about characters than storylines. The last two episodes have done a great job painting the conclusion to this series and it does seem like they will give a satisfactory conclusion.
What I want to know is where was Siobhan's crew from the old days? In past seasons she's had her former--and quite formidable--teammates at the ready when heading into danger. Why go up against Ferdinand without backup of any kind?
I think they said that the old crew was pretty much gone. Don't remember the episode though.
Yeah, I'm sorry we won't be seeing Cal again. Alas. At least, we got a visual tribute to both MK and Tony.
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