Open Speculation about "Star Trek: Picard"

Discussion in 'Star Trek: Picard' started by Lord Garth, Jun 27, 2019.

  1. F. King Daniel

    F. King Daniel Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    I think they may have, and the Picard guys are using it as an allegory for the US government and our current climate crisis.

    For what it's worth, Star Trek gives 2387 as the year of the supernova, but the script floating about the internet has 2385.
     
  2. Ar-Pharazon

    Ar-Pharazon Admiral Premium Member

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    Picard says "nearly two decades ago" referring to Data's sacrifice. While that could mean 20 years, it could also mean 12 years.
     
  3. Tuskin38

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    They’ve said in other marketing material that it’s 2399
     
  4. DaveyNY

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    Could They be planning to kill off Deanna?
     
  5. Lord Garth

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    I like that it's in 2399 because in that sense it means Picard is the Final Word on the 24th Century. Kind of like I view TUC as the Final Word on the 23rd (the first 15 minutes of GEN are just a post-script, IMO).

    I think that would be a crap thing to do. They killed Yar already, and if Crusher is dead, then if they kill Troi then the message that has been sent will have been "Welcome to TNG: where all the women in the main cast die!"
     
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  6. WarpFactorZ

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    Why would that even cross your mind? What's the point of doing so?
     
  7. DaveyNY

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    Perhaps in an attempt to match things up with what supposedly happened to her in "All Good Things".

    Jest Speculatin' as the thread title suggests.
    :shrug:
     
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    I can buy that. But the point is she's object, not subject. Any good MacGuffin fades into the background of a story after the initial setup, because they are there to set up the core conflict, not be at the center of it.

    As an example, George Lucas considered R2-D2 to be the MacGuffin of Star Wars. While of course he wasn't the most fleshed out character, his role in the movie decreased over time.
     
  9. Tenacity

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    If it's supposedly the last year of the 24th century, then wouldn't it be in the year 2400?
     
  10. Lord Garth

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    True, but if the series runs at least three seasons, it'll probably roll over into 2400.
     
  11. DaveyNY

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    I'm not positive but it seems from the trailer that once she finally gets to Picard and they talk, she then ends up getting kidnapped and perhaps the whole first season may be about Picard and his motley crew trying to find and rescue her.
     
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  12. F. King Daniel

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    My theory: Picard sees Data in his dreams, giving him obscure hints and clues. Reveal in final episode? That it was Q masquerading as Data.
     
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  13. Paul Weaver

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    Maybe it’s Data from the future masquerading as Q all along
     
  14. Llywela

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    She's a series regular, though, which makes 'kidnapped for most of the season' seem unlikely.
     
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  15. DaveyNY

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    Except, it's going to be a continuing story spread out over ten episodes, not specific individual tales.
    There's a possibility that after being kidnapped her tale ends up being shown as the B-plot throughout, with Picard and crew searching for her as the A-plot.

    Perhaps similar to the old John Wayne movie "The Searchers".
     
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  16. Llywela

    Llywela Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

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    Maybe, but we also see her snogging one of the Romulans in the trailer, which suggests she's with the rest of the crew for longer than just the first episode.

    Well, time will tell!
     
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    Yeah, so far the only people we've seen her interacting with are people who are most likely going to end up member of La Sirena's crew, so I can't see her disappearing.
    I've got a new theory about the overall story for the first season at least.
    After Hobus, the Romulans pretty much lose all of their power and most of them end up living as refugees other planets. Elnor (Evan Evagor's Romulan) and some others end up on Earth working for Picard, because he helped save them.
    Another group of Romulans are desperate to recapture their old power, so they start experimenting with Borg and Soong-type androids. Perhaps they are trying to create some kind of Borg/Soong-type cyborg army, and Dahj (Isa Briones, the girl looking for Picard's help) is a test subject, perhaps they're first successful prototype.
    Data comes into play because it turns out some of his programing was involved in the Romulan's experiment, and that programming combing with the Borg stuff makes Picard start to dream about him.
    I noticed in the second trailer that the red outfits the androids are wearing is the same thing we see the people wearing in the scene with the sign about xxxx days since last assimilation, which is possibly on the Borg cube we see. So it looks like the androids are on the cube.
    Seven, Hugh, and a bunch of other ex-Borg are going around trying to liberate other drones, and when they find out about the Romulans are up to they attack the cube they are on. This is where we see Seven shooting the two guns, and holding someone, possibly Hugh, in the new trailer. This is also where we see Hugh looking around the corner.
    While there they stumble across Dahj and free her, after which she goes to Picard because her Borg bits are connecting them. Seven eventually tracks Dahj down to the Picard vineyard and that is where we see her talking to Jean-Luc in the first trailer. She eventually convinces him to protect Dahj. After finds out about the Romulan experiments, and that they involved Data's programming and the Borg, he decides to stop them.
    He visits Dr. Jurati (Alison Pill) to check on Data's remains, which we see them doing in the first trailer, and she joins him on his mission once she finds out what's going on.
    He then visits Starfleet Command, but when the admiral we see in the trailers refuses to help, he goes to the Rikers for help instead. Riker recommends Rio (Santiago Cabrera), the captain of La Sirena, and Musiker (Michelle Hurd), an ex-Starfleet special forces operative with experience dealing with the Borg and Romulans.
    Picard, Dahj, Elnor, Musiker, Rio, and Jurati then all set out together on La Sirena to try to stop whatever the Romulans are up to.
    Personally, I'm holding out hope that it will turn out the mastermind behind the whole Romulan/Borg/android plot will be Sela with a surprised appearance by Denise Crosby, but we've gotten no real evidence or rumors for that.
     
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  18. Tuskin38

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    She appeared to be in a bar in that scene.
     
  19. DaveyNY

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    Looked more like some kind of lounge area to me.
    (which of course could be part of a bar)
    There's also a body on the floor behind her.
     
  20. JD

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    Oh, it went so fast I didn't get a clear look at what was behind, all I noticed was that it was dark.