Open Speculation about "Star Trek: Picard"

Discussion in 'Star Trek: Picard' started by Lord Garth, Jun 27, 2019.

  1. NCC-73515

    NCC-73515 Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    It would be a great cliffhanger if S1 ended with Picard's implants reactivating - Locutus is back! - To be continued...
     
  2. Unimatrix Q

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    Think you might be onto something with this. I could actually see that happen.
     
  3. DaveyNY

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    Is it possible that Data somehow, also become part of the Borg Collective while 'dancing the light fantastic' with the Borg Queen?

    Perhaps that's why Picard is having such vivid dreams about him.
    :shrug:
     
  4. JD

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    I never really got the impression that she connected him to the Collective, and I'm pretty sure something like that would have been clearly addressed at some point during the movie.
     
  5. Danja

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    Seven may have had a vendetta. She may have been out for revenge for (Hugh's) death (those guns looked awfully large -- they didn't appear to have holsters).

    She may have been thinking, "You killed Hugh ... and so help me, I'm making sure that as many of you as possible are going with him! :eek: "

    She raided the place.



    (FWIW, I'm happy for Seven and Jeri Ryan. After all these years, Seven FINALLY gets to be who she is -- a soldier. :bolian: )


    I'm assuming that Seven and Hugh are Mother and son (it's the only reason I can think of for stoic Seven to flip out the way she did in the trailer).
     
  6. Danja

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    As I stated in my previous post, I'm assuming that Seven and Hugh are Mother and son.

    At first, Seven doesn't want to get involved with Picard and Dahj. She's older, tired of fighting and bloodshed, and is looking to (semi-)retire from The Game (hence the line, "I fight for those who have no one to fight for them").

    Hugh, OTOH, is young, brash, and impulsive. He injects himself into the situation (and pays the ultimate price for it :( ). It's Hugh's death that finally forces Seven off the sidelines.
     
  7. StewMc

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    Not sure if you're joking or not, but Seven and Hugh are probably the same age (roughly). We don't even know if Hugh is human (he probably isn't since they never mentioned it in "I, Borg").
    Hugh would be around 50 years old at the time PIC is set.
     
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  8. Danja

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    We won't know until the show begins in January. ;)

    On Voyager, Seven shed tears, but she's always been restrained. She never wailed or went quite as OTT as she did in the trailer.

    I'm assuming that she and Hugh were REALLY close. It's the only reason I can think of for her to behave the way she did in the trailer.


    This is a completely new continuity. TPTB may or may not hew to past canon.

    We know nothing about Hugh's origins other than the fact that he's Borg. He's essentially a blank canvas. You can sketch in whatever details about his background you want.
     
  9. Paul Weaver

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    Sigh
     
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  10. StewMc

    StewMc Commodore Commodore

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    Yeah.

    We don’t even know if Hugh dies, the body Seven is holding doesn’t look like del Arco.

    And, we haven’t seen Seven in over 20 years (in universe), all the “out of character” stuff can go out the window, that’s a long time for people to change.
     
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    Why does it even have to be a character we know that Seven is holding? They could easily have a scene or two with a new character that establishes a relationship with Seven so when they die, it can have some impact. This show doesn't have to have EVERYONE from past shows in it.
     
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  12. Danja

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    Appearances can be deceiving.

    The Borg have maturation tanks (Seven herself spent time in one -- she was assimilated when she was a child). A Borg can have the body of a grown adult while at the same time being a twelve-year-old emotionally (it reminds me of some people I know IRL :whistle: ).


    True.

    Something pretty extreme must've happened to her to cause her to do a 180 like that. :shifty:
     
  13. Tuskin38

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    Where are you getting this Hugh is going to die part?
     
  14. Nenya

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    Its just wild speculation at this point.
     
  15. Tuskin38

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    We see her crying over a body in the trailer, that doesn’t have Hugh’s hair
     
  16. eschaton

    eschaton Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    Yep. The hair is clearly curly on top, which doesn't work for Hugh, Chakotay, or Ichib.
     
  17. WarpFactorZ

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    No it's not. It's set in the same continuity as TNG.
     
  18. Paul Weaver

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    Hugh sure, we've seen how he looks in 2399

    Chuckles and Icheb though could well have had some new hair. Heck maybe it's the EMH!

    (I agree it's neither of those characters though)
     
  19. Danja

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    You're right. I keep forgetting this series follows Star Trek: Nemesis.
     
  20. Prax

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    By the finale of Voyager, Seven is smiling and joking, having warm conversations with Neelix, etc. She's already accomplished most of that 180, and is not the same person she was when she first joined the ship