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Spoilers On Seven and sexuality

Then there's DS9 where Jeffrey Combs gets Quark to create a holographic Kira for sexual purposes. Though pissed when she finds out, Kira's solution is to replace her hologram's head with a recreation of Quark's head instead of reporting Quark and having him reprimanded in some manner. Odo doesn't even threaten Quark with any legal action, and you know Odo would just jump at the chance to slap any charged on Quark that he could. Therefore I'd say we are forced to conclude there are no rules, regulations or laws against recreating people in the holodeck.
Or Odo wanted some quality time with Quark-head Kiragram
 
I think a relationship with Chakotay would turn any woman gay.:p
I probably shouldn't have laughed, but I did genuinely :lol: at that. (The fact Chuckles is one of the very few Trek characters I actually dislike probably has a fair bit to do with it.)

I think I read somewhere that the "Riker its on chairs" thing had to do with his uniform being so uncomfortable.
I've an idea I read that Frakes picked up a back injury years ago, and that led to the chair attack thing.

And yet people argue that killing Maddox is so much more poignant because Jurati and he were lovers, not just close friends...
I'm not quite sure what you're saying (it's early and I haven't had anything like enough caffeine). Maddox and Jurati were exes, so Seven and Bjayzl must be as well? Or do I have that wrong? I genuinely don't care if they are or not; it makes no significant difference to the quality of the episode, or anything else for that matter. As others have pointed out the fact we're even having this discussion - and that the scene is just as effective whether Seven and Bjayzl are ex-friends or ex-lovers - says a lot about the quality of the writing, acting and direction of the episode. IMO that's a good thing.

I just had this horrible thought that after this traumatizing experience with Bedazzled, she might want to get with someone 'safe'.. And what could be safer than a piece of cardboard?!
Except that a bit of cardboard is still more animated and interesting than Chuckles. (If Janeway / Chuckles :barf2: ever somehow becomes "canon" I'll have to give up on Trek. Bad enough that it's in the books.) Seven can / should do much, much better.

I wonder if there’s a holodeck protocol that prevents people from using other people’s Likenesses in sexual or other non-consenting situations with out authorization from them.
That's something I've never thought of before (and probably should have). The rest of the discussion aside, I reckon there really should be such a protocol. The creepiness factor alone demands one.
 
Finally, a hook for my Time's Arrow rewrite: an investigation sends Data back to 1980s New York ballroom scene.

Love it.

This said, well, why mightn't Data have been interested in same-sex relationships, as another way of being human? Now that we finally know for certain that being non-straight has not been edited out of the human genome in the Star Trek future, why might that not be something he might be interested in?
 
That is actually kinda terrifying. I wonder if there’s a holodeck protocol that prevents people from using other people’s Likenesses in sexual or other non-consenting situations with out authorization from them.

Seven was having coitus with a hologram of Chakotay, and "weeks" later when she had her cortical limiter removed, the Doctor still thought that HoloChakotay was in the picture.

There's no evidence for either. Besides I don't think that would be particularly relevant for the growth of those characters.

Addendum to my previous comment: it shouldn't be interpreted in a wrong way. I am the first one to acknowledge equality of all sexual orientations, and I respect people who are homosexual just as any other heterosexual, or whatever the choice, but what really is annoying is how they now seem to have a need to make a big deal out of it. Those things can be depicted subtly and in a passive manner, so to speak, instead of throwing it into the faces of the audience. (The Orville has done that right, I'd say, Star Trek-fashion, with those two Moclan characters aboard and their personal relationship)

Voy Body and Soul.

The Doctor and Seven sharing a body, were arging over whether they wanted to seduce a man or or a woman to effect their escape.

Megan Gallagher?

Megan Gallagher the subject of this stuff before, in DS9 Invasive procedures.

She wasn't sure if she was into her boyfriend Lionel Luthor any more after the stolen Dax Simbiont was stapled to his soul.
 
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I gathered Bjayzl and Seven were friends, or at least Seven was led to believe. The criminal mastermind sought out Borg parts to sell in the black market, so she took advantage of Seven naïveté and befriended her to gain her trust.

Watching this show as well as Discovery makes me think humanity isn't all that evolved.
 
I gathered Bjayzl and Seven were friends, or at least Seven was led to believe. The criminal mastermind sought out Borg parts to sell in the black market, so she took advantage of Seven naïveté and befriended her to gain her trust.

Watching this show as well as Discovery makes me think humanity isn't all that evolved.

It would take weeks, or months for Bjazl to gain trust through friendship.

Take her puppies out, and dummies will die for her, before they know her name.

Hmmm?

Tuvok was on a spy mission impregnating Chakotay's Maquis cell in the Voyager Pilot?

Who did he bang?
 
My feeling is they were vague enough so she can be whatever the fans want her to be. If they want to say they were lovers nobody is going to say no to that and also the same if they were just friends. Basically the ole Xena and Gabby subtext angle which honestly feels old school in this day and age. I mean if Seven was gay or bi there is literally no reason anymore to not just say so in a very clear way.


Jason
 
My feeling is they were vague enough so she can be whatever the fans want her to be. If they want to say they were lovers nobody is going to say no to that and also the same if they were just friends. Basically the ole Xena and Gabby subtext angle which honestly feels old school in this day and age. I mean if Seven was gay or bi there is literally no reason anymore to not just say so in a very clear way.


Jason
Other than it can come across as clunky and awkward as dialog.
 
Other than it can come across as clunky and awkward as dialog.

To be honest I don't think that matters as much as it use to when it comes to sending a message of inclusion. I remember when Culber was "killed" on "Discovery" the showrunner made it very clear online he would be back and their romantic storyline was not over. Which is fine only you basically just tossed away any mystery over him coming back. It's one of the issues you still have with LGBT characters. Still a need to add extra purpose to them by making them culturally important instead of just treating like your random standard characters.

Jason
 
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