New project - TOS Enterprise 1341-foot version full interior 3D model

Discussion in 'Fan Art' started by Toddard, Apr 17, 2022.

  1. blssdwlf

    blssdwlf Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    Sure. There are multiple engine rooms in the Enterprise.
    From "The Naked Time": SCOTT: Engineers, man your stations. Engine rooms, report.

    One possible access way could be from the large portable machinery side like that opening in "The Enemy Within".
    https://tos.trekcore.com/hd/albums/1x05hd/theenemywithinhd484.jpg

    Alternatively, we're shown very limited areas of the specific engine room that Riley is poisoned in which opens possibilities of a larger space with multiple paths in and out.


    Or Riley picked the one engine room that only has one way in :)
     
  2. Toddard

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    I'll leave that decision up to @Jim Botaitis . They are his blueprints and I am only adding the third dimension to them. That said, sometimes we've realized some unexpected things after the 3D study and Jim tweaked things as a result.
     
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  3. BK613

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    Fair enough. Of course it could also intersect a curving corridor on the upper deck, providing additional connectivity.
     
  4. Jim Botaitis

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    Yes, if the port and starboard crawlways were allowed to extend up into Deck 6, they could be sandwiched between crew quarters. Rearranging quarters means I would lose a few beds. However, I would have to add a new radial corridor to port and starboard so as to provide access to the quarters that are pinched-off between each crawlway and each forward elevator tube. Adding 2 corridors means I would lose a few more beds.
    If the forward crawlway were allowed to extend up into Deck 6, the forward radial corridor that exists on Deck 6 would have to be replaced with 2 new corridors so as to provide access to the quarters that are pinched-off between the crawlway and the forward elevator tube to each side.

    Quarters caught in the front third of Deck 6 (between the elevtor tubes) can only get out by going down the crawlway to Deck 7.
    A radial corridor on each side of the crawlway would have to be added. This means I would lose a few beds.
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    Both solutions detract from the tri-radial symmetry that exists on Deck 6 right now.

    Either way, there is a loss of too many beds to be able to accommodate 432 crew members. I could add crew quarters in the outer ring on Deck 6, but this would make the remaining cargo space outward of the quarters too narrow and too hard to reach.

    The attached drawing shows Deck 6 (top left), Deck 7 (top right), Deck 6 - tinted green - on top of Deck 7 - tinted pink - (lower left) and the main corridors, crawlways, and elevators (bottom right).
    https://www.jbot.ca/space/bhc/67 combo.jpg
     
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  5. blssdwlf

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    I'm imagining that the crawlspace (if left as-is) will become a jefferies tube with pipes crossing through and paralleling the tunnel. Although at the midpoint where it is tightest there should be some room for a person to be able to fit through... or not? :)
     
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  6. Henoch

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    A few more ladders on the inside of the outer ring of deck 7 leading up to deck 6 wouldn't hurt. :)
     
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  7. BK613

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    @Jim Botaitis Yea, it would be a PITA for you to make those changes now (though doubling up more singles might work.)

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    IMO, this shouldn't be a consideration. Functionality should trump symmetry.
     
  8. Jim Botaitis

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    The crawlspace is really there just to provide crosswise access to the space above the undercut. I imagine that space is used for fuel, water, air, luggage, drugs, Orion slave women, etc. :lol:
    At the apex, it is too narrow to allow crewmembers to pass, unless perhaps they are very very thin. See image below:
    https://www.jbot.ca/space/bhc/Crawlspace.jpg
     
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  9. blssdwlf

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    Seems like you could convert the entry ways into a jefferies tube entry to crawl up to the ceiling level and then go horizontal towards the thin part. Or have access panels in the floor to most of the volume in the thinnest parts. Still, I'm looking forward to seeing the whole plan realized into a 3D model. :)
     
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  10. Jim Botaitis

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    Yes, I could put ladders in the locations where the Enivornmental Lockers (EL) are. I think there are 6 such locations on the inner face of the outermost ring corridor. Good idea. Thank you.
     
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