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New Doctor to be revealed on Sunday

He has the look of a lawyer or a medical doctor. He will be the polar opposite of Matt...from the most quirky...to the least.

I wonder how straight he will play it. I'm thinking even more downbeat than Eccleston
 
That's the guy in charge of meeting the aliens in Children of the Earth, right? I loved him there. He played a superb small man. I am sure that he will do a great Doctor. My only issue with the choice is that we already had superb Doctors and superb stories for long enough, and I really wished they'd do something more different and exciting. But still, a departure from Matt Smith is good enough in itself (and I loved Matt Smith), so there is still something to look forward to.

My problem is that I used to eager to see the next episode and could not wait for it, but lately I've been so worn off that I often completely forgot that the show existed and missed a lot of episodes. If they had cast a woman, I'd actually be thrilled to see how that'd change the dynamic between her, Clara and any potential companions, adversaries and people encountered. Now I'll probably forget about it again. I'm not even that thrilled about the mysterious Doctor now, but if the story is as enthralling as "The Name of the Doctor", that will be awesome.

Still, love this guy.
 
More wilfull missing of the point. I'm on about the children. I wouldn't want 6 year olds hearing violent swearing when they try and find out more about the new Doctor Who, and that's undoubtedly what they'll come across. Why is this simple and reasonable point (unless people think it's fine for children to hear "fuck" and "cunt") so difficult for people to grasp?

I very much doubt many 6 year olds will have watched The Thick of It. Or be allowed to play on Youtube unsupervised to do their own research. Cos, y'know, they're six.
We can but hope, but this choice of actor won't help. It's foreseeable that they'll want to see who this new man playing their hero is, and it follows that some will then be exposed to some foul language.

This is a show where people die violent deaths in great numbers pretty regularly. But yes, let's worry about a little swearing someone might be exposed to by watching something else.
 
Count me in as one of the whovians who didn't really care what gender or ethnicity the new Doctor might be, so long as whoever it is brings something wonderful to the role! :)

Again, just after the announcement was made, a second, older, rather nasty, anti-Semitic Twitter feed using Capaldi's name was abruptly deleted. I don't know what the case is: Maybe it's not the real Peter Capaldi, and someone at the Beeb found it and asked for its deletion so as not to besmirch the actor. I hope that's the case so I'll reserve judgement, but the timing has me a mite curious.

I took a screenshot of the cached page, but won't post it unless you folks want to see it (there's a link to the cached page in my last post).

Anyway, Long Live the Doctor!
 
Again, just after the announcement was made, a second, older, rather nasty, anti-Semitic Twitter feed using Capaldi's name was abruptly deleted. I don't know what the case is: Maybe it's not the real Peter Capaldi, and someone at the Beeb found it and asked for its deletion so as not to besmirch the actor. I hope that's the case so I'll reserve judgement, but the timing has me a mite curious.

Was it a verified account (with a blue okay sign)? Anyone can register any account name on Twitter. In fact, there are many parody accounts and also people maintaining accounts on someone else's behalf.
 
Oh my god Mary Whitehouse was right! - John Hurt was in Caligula! plus a film where he played a practing homosexualist - We must close the internet immediately for the sake of the children.
Are you wilfully missing the point? It's not that it's one of many roles, it's that it's the single thing almost everyone knows Capaldi for. Look at what's trending on Twitter now. Peter Capaldi, Malcolm Tucker and The Thick of It. A lot of people probably just thought "Oh look, Malcolm Tucker's the Doctor". And the issue is whether it's wise to have the lead in a family show watched by many, many children played by someone known almost exclusively for saying fuck and cunt.

No one is missing the point; it's just not one worth taking seriously.
I can only imagine Ghost Bones' reaction when James Gandolfini appeared on Sesame Street. I hear the children of America are to this day still traumatized.

You guys can take it outside to another board altogether if you feel the need to continue your interpersonal battle.


Everyone, please keep focused upon the subject at hand of the newly-cast Doctor. For the most part, it's been good. But with such an energized topic things have been fraying.
 
More wilfull missing of the point. I'm on about the children. I wouldn't want 6 year olds hearing violent swearing when they try and find out more about the new Doctor Who, and that's undoubtedly what they'll come across. Why is this simple and reasonable point (unless people think it's fine for children to hear "fuck" and "cunt") so difficult for people to grasp?
LOL, :guffaw: Are you serious? What are 6 year olds doing running loose on the internet by themselves? There's much bigger danger out there on the internet, that the parents should be monitoring/preventing, that would naturally take care of this issue

Agreed - parents are responsible for children, not the BBC.

The BBC produces excellent children's programming and excellent adult programming, you have to move from one to the other at some point, and the guide for that is parents, no-one else.

As for Malcolm Tucker, seriously everyone should watch The Thick of It, as his character while frequently hilarious really is a monster, and no real model for anyone. In the end he has a fantastic speech to his potential replacement where he reveals that politics and his job has been his whole life, and that it has left him with nothing else. Capaldi sells the character superbly.

Edit: Just saw mod message, not trying to start a fight here, please delete this post if it is a problem, thanks.
 
Again, just after the announcement was made, a second, older, rather nasty, anti-Semitic Twitter feed using Capaldi's name was abruptly deleted. I don't know what the case is: Maybe it's not the real Peter Capaldi, and someone at the Beeb found it and asked for its deletion so as not to besmirch the actor. I hope that's the case so I'll reserve judgement, but the timing has me a mite curious.

Was it a verified account (with a blue okay sign)? Anyone can register any account name on Twitter. In fact, there are many parody accounts and also people maintaining accounts on someone else's behalf.
The "unofficial" Capaldi Twitter account says the other one is "not his account."
 
Again, just after the announcement was made, a second, older, rather nasty, anti-Semitic Twitter feed using Capaldi's name was abruptly deleted. I don't know what the case is: Maybe it's not the real Peter Capaldi, and someone at the Beeb found it and asked for its deletion so as not to besmirch the actor. I hope that's the case so I'll reserve judgement, but the timing has me a mite curious.

Was it a verified account (with a blue okay sign)? Anyone can register any account name on Twitter. In fact, there are many parody accounts and also people maintaining accounts on someone else's behalf.

I agree completely, and that's one reason I really have no use for Twitter myself. Like I said, I really don't know the deal. There's a blue Twitter symbol, if that's what you mean. There are two links: One to a Youtube account featuring a lot of British Drama with Capaldi in it, another to a rather nasty, racist site.

I really don't think it's him. That sort of thing would be professional suicide to any actor, let alone one in one of the world's most iconic television roles.

The only thing is the timing of the removal, but that doesn't prove anything. It was removed about an hour after the announcement, but that may only mean that someone in BBC's publicity department found a fake Twitter feed and had it removed so as not to libel the real person or program. Like you said, there are all sorts of imposters and parodies (my favorite was Boris Karloff Tweeting from beyond the grave).

http://smg.photobucket.com/user/whodfrell/media/Capaldi2011Twitter_zps533c97ff.jpg.html
 
^ Yeah, there's no way that's him. It's brand new, with only two tweets, and it's too obviously trying to be shocking. It's a fake account.

More wilfull missing of the point. I'm on about the children. I wouldn't want 6 year olds hearing violent swearing when they try and find out more about the new Doctor Who, and that's undoubtedly what they'll come across. Why is this simple and reasonable point (unless people think it's fine for children to hear "fuck" and "cunt") so difficult for people to grasp?

Because it's not a simple and reasonable point?

- Children that age have most likely heard those words and more from their schoolmates and friends.
- It's shitty parenting if you allow a six-year-old unrestricted access to the internet.
- It's shitty parenting if, once discovered, you can't explain to your child the concept of how actors work in different roles and genres.
- How is swearing in and of itself, absent of context, "violent"?
- The kids will hear the words, possibly repeat them for a while, and then they'll move on. It won't traumatize them.
- What friggin' six year old is looking up the acting history of the new Doctor on IMDb and YouTube?

This couldn't be more of a non-issue if you tried.

So if you reproduced a child, you'd be perfectly comfortable for me to go up to it and yell "I'm sweating embryoes, you eff star star cunt! Kiss my sweaty ballsack! You're about as much use as a marsipan dildo, you big fucking prick! I call it custard cancer!" Or rather, for them to witness such a conversation.

"So if you reproduced a child..." Who talks like that? I guess people who don't understand the difference between a child being told curse words by friends at school or overhearing/reading them and being screamed at by some crazed nutjob.

I wish I could get spoiler tags to work (I tried
and [spoilers], but no good, any advice?) - because, based on what we learned in the last finale, I have some speculation on what kind of Doctor that I think he *may* play - and why I think they went with THIS particular actor. Just to say that they may have wanted somebody to play a wider range of personalities...
Click on this little guy in the quote form:
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Enter the subject matter the spoilers are in regard to in the pop-up, ie. "New Doctor Speculation."

Type in the spoilers themselves between the following tags:
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ETA: Sorry Neroon, I was typing this up before you posted.
 
Aha! Thanks for the clarification. I'm afraid I don't look at Twitter enough to be really well versed on this sort of thing, so it's clear that the Beeb wisely had an imposter account removed. So as not to cast discredit on the new Doc, I'm going to remove the picture and just fangasm along with everybody else. :D

Now, as for characterization, I'd enjoy seeing the Twelfth Doctor bring a little bit of acerbic wit to the part, maybe tone down the eccentricity just a wee bit, while still having a sense of fun to him, a likeability that poor Colin Baker was never allowed to develop due to the material he was given and his short span in the role. My impression is that maybe we'll see a Doctor slightly more In the mold of Christopher Eccleston.

Balancing the right amount of gravitas and whimsy can be a challenge, but my impression is that Peter Capaldi is the man to pull it off wonderfully. I can't wait until November and December!
 
^ Yeah, there's no way that's him. It's brand new, with only two tweets, and it's too obviously trying to be shocking. It's a fake account.

More wilfull missing of the point. I'm on about the children. I wouldn't want 6 year olds hearing violent swearing when they try and find out more about the new Doctor Who, and that's undoubtedly what they'll come across. Why is this simple and reasonable point (unless people think it's fine for children to hear "fuck" and "cunt") so difficult for people to grasp?

Because it's not a simple and reasonable point?

- Children that age have most likely heard those words and more from their schoolmates and friends.
- It's shitty parenting if you allow a six-year-old unrestricted access to the internet.
- It's shitty parenting if, once discovered, you can't explain to your child the concept of how actors work in different roles and genres.
- How is swearing in and of itself, absent of context, "violent"?
- The kids will hear the words, possibly repeat them for a while, and then they'll move on. It won't traumatize them.
- What friggin' six year old is looking up the acting history of the new Doctor on IMDb and YouTube?

This couldn't be more of a non-issue if you tried.

So if you reproduced a child, you'd be perfectly comfortable for me to go up to it and yell "I'm sweating embryoes, you eff star star cunt! Kiss my sweaty ballsack! You're about as much use as a marsipan dildo, you big fucking prick! I call it custard cancer!" Or rather, for them to witness such a conversation.

"So if you reproduced a child..." Who talks like that? I guess people who don't understand the difference between a child being told curse words by friends at school or overhearing/reading them and being screamed at by some crazed nutjob.

I wish I could get spoiler tags to work (I tried
and [spoilers], but no good, any advice?) - because, based on what we learned in the last finale, I have some speculation on what kind of Doctor that I think he *may* play - and why I think they went with THIS particular actor. Just to say that they may have wanted somebody to play a wider range of personalities...
Click on this little guy in the quote form:
NoJnMhm.gif


Enter the subject matter the spoilers are in regard to in the pop-up, ie. "New Doctor Speculation."

Type in the spoilers themselves between the following tags:
[SPOILER="SUBJECT HERE" ] SPOILERS HERE [ /SPOILER]


ETA: Sorry Neroon, I was typing this up before you posted.
[yt]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=epDS0h48qRk[/yt]
 
Count me in as one of the whovians who didn't really care what gender or ethnicity the new Doctor might be, so long as whoever it is brings something wonderful to the role! :)

Changing the gender in itself brings something new to the role by changing the interaction with the remaining characters who see the Doctor as a man and playing tricks with the expectations of the audience (especially the sexist among us like me :p ). Now whether it would be wonderful then depends on the writers, but I have faith it will be wonderful when it happens.

As for the race, it feels somewhat improper how he never changed race while River did it on both her regenerations (so it definitely happens), sooner or later the Doctor has to change race too, but other than that it won't affect my personal enjoyment.

Yet a popular character like the Doctor is more important than my own enjoyment of it, so casting people so that everyone who watches the show can easily see themselves as the Doctor should also been taken in mind, especially when, as you say, it does not have a negative impact on our enjoyment of it.
 
Yet a popular character like the Doctor is more important than my own enjoyment of it, so casting people so that everyone who watches the show can easily see themselves as the Doctor should also been taken in mind, especially when, as you say, it does not have a negative impact on our enjoyment of it.


Well said!

I would enjoy a female Doctor, or a non-white Doctor, provided that he or she were perfect for the role, but my preferences aren't the only ones to consider. The Beeb has a very large audience to consider and, while I'm a bit disappointed that the Beeb didn't make a braver casting decision, they made a good choice to go with a more mature actor and someone with acting chops for the role! :)

And who knows what we'll see in the coming months and years? It's an exciting time to be a Whovian.
 
Coincidence corner 2. Capaldi is the second Doctor to play a Beatle. He played George Harrison in a TV movie (with Mark McGann, brother of Paul, as John Lennon), while Chris Eccleston played Lennon for the BBC (with a Torchwood's Naoko Mori as Yoko).
 
It is heavily implied that during the run between the Wedding of River Song and TNOTD that the Doctor had a full marital relationship with River, albeit not spelled out on screen.

That said, I don't think that can be classed as shagging about, she was his wife.

So people stop having sex after 50. Good to know. Not sure why that would stop him from having sex. Not that he has been known to have sex with anyone.

Not sure that makes any sense as a reply to my post? :confused:

I'm ecstatic Capaldi has been cast, I'd prefer if he didn't have another relationship as it would dilute what he had with River a bit, but nothing to do with his age.

Sorry I think I was trying to reply to ghostbones or whoever and I hit and didn't read.

Sorry *hugs* I am going to step away from this page.
 
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