Marvel/Netflix Daredevil season 2.
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Almost finished. This season has been fantastic, full of twists and turns and more episodic in nature than Season 1, which I like.
Some highs:
Anytime Wilson Fisk shows up, the show becomes almost transcendent. Vincent D'onofrio is beyond fantastic. He swallows up all the oxygen and is the most dynamic character in a show full of them.
The Punisher. This version is far more compelling, interesting and real than any other in past productions. He is believeable, which matters for a character that is basically a one man army.
Karen Page. I would watch a show that she headlined in a hot minute. Deborah Ann Woll is absolutely fantastic and this season has really let her stretch her metephorical legs.
Lows:
Elektra - All the elements are there, but they just don't add up. Disappointing
Violence - far too brutal and graphic. Hard to stomach some of the scenes.
Some highs:
Anytime Wilson Fisk shows up, the show becomes almost transcendent. Vincent D'onofrio is beyond fantastic. He swallows up all the oxygen and is the most dynamic character in a show full of them.
The Punisher. This version is far more compelling, interesting and real than any other in past productions. He is believeable, which matters for a character that is basically a one man army.
Karen Page. I would watch a show that she headlined in a hot minute. Deborah Ann Woll is absolutely fantastic and this season has really let her stretch her metephorical legs.
Lows:
Elektra - All the elements are there, but they just don't add up. Disappointing
Violence - far too brutal and graphic. Hard to stomach some of the scenes.
Or if you just pay attention to the first season of the show, you know it was Kingpin himself who was wanting to "gentrify" Hell's Kitchen, but everyone did whatever they could to stop that. There was also allusions to him not being the first to attempt it, but he believed he had the power and resources to actually make it happen this time.
It's a meta-commentary on what Hell's Kitchen NYC looks like today, vs what it looked like back in the 80s when DD was big and is the aesthetic that the show runners are using to frame their show. Lindsay lives in NYC and her tweets were meant to make you laugh.
Just google "Hell's Kitchen gentry" and you'll find article after article and pictures of how ritzy Hell's Kitchen looks like today.
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/05/03/realestate/rapid-change-in-hells-kitchen.html
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/03/19/nyregion/19hell.html?fta=y
http://www.6sqft.com/hells-kitchen-once-the-wild-west-now-undergoing-rapid-gentrification/
When you think about outdoor coffee shops, restaurant pavilions, yoga studios and vegan restaurants, you wouldn't think Hell's Kitchen or Harlem would have these things.
At what point whatsoever did anything you quote make you think that I didn't know what Hell's Kitchen looked like today?
The part where it seemed like you didn't get the joke of my post or Lindsay's tweets.
This part here.
"Or if you just pay attention to the first season of the show, you know it was Kingpin himself who was wanting to "gentrify" Hell's Kitchen..."
Keep in mind that in DD season 1, the realtors said the Chitauri invasion was the cause for the rundown look of Hell's Kitchen.
I don't think the word "joke" means what you think it means...
Well if it didn't make you laugh, like it did me, that's ok.
I watched episode 3 this morning.
I really loved the debate between DD and Punisher about their methodologies.
It was nice seeing Claire Temple again. Was her reference to helping a big guy a reference to Luke Cage? I don't remember seeing her in JJ, so I'm assuming she must be in ep13 since that's the only one I haven't seen yet.
Foggy in talking the guys down in the ER was another great moment.
The hallways/stairwell fight was cool, but not quite as impressive as Season 1's hallway scene. There was what appeared to be some CGI enhancement, and I think some of the camera movement and pans past DD were covering up edits too.
I really loved the debate between DD and Punisher about their methodologies.
It was nice seeing Claire Temple again. Was her reference to helping a big guy a reference to Luke Cage? I don't remember seeing her in JJ, so I'm assuming she must be in ep13 since that's the only one I haven't seen yet.
Foggy in talking the guys down in the ER was another great moment.
The hallways/stairwell fight was cool, but not quite as impressive as Season 1's hallway scene. There was what appeared to be some CGI enhancement, and I think some of the camera movement and pans past DD were covering up edits too.
Well, this being Netflix, it's easy enough to go back and check. What episode and time index was it?
I don't remember the time index, but it was in one of the scenes with Daredevil and Punisher on the rooftop in episode three. I went back a couple minutes later, because it caught me off guard, but I still couldn't tell for sure what he said. It sounded pretty close to fuck, but it wasn't real clear, so it could be something else.
Maybe Castle was expressing his fondness for '70s funk music? 
I liked Season 2 more than Season 1 for the inclusion of the Punisher and Elektra. Had a lot more going on with more characters, so it didn't feel as slow and drawn out as the first season did.
Unfortunately they once again fell for the prequel trope of the character not becoming what they're supposed to be until the very end. Did they really have to wait until the very end for the Punisher to put a damn skull on his shirt? Or for Elektra to get a proper costume? She was already an assassin. Or for Daredevil to get his billy club?
It was cool to have the Hand in full force, but it's a little hard to get excited about a bunch of rando ninjas as your antagonists. Nobu had no personality or arc. So we had a ton of great heroes, but a lack of great villains. Loved seeing more of Stick. He's my favorite character on the show.
My biggest disappointment is that DD and Elektra didn't do a proper team-up with the Punisher in the last episode. The Hand ninjas aren't technically alive, so DD should have had no problem with Punisher cutting them to pieces. It would have been a nice ending to the Punisher arc, of him being a hero (of sorts) and working with others, and it would have tied two disparate stories together in a satisfying way.
It was cool to have the Hand in full force, but it's a little hard to get excited about a bunch of rando ninjas as your antagonists. Nobu had no personality or arc. So we had a ton of great heroes, but a lack of great villains. Loved seeing more of Stick. He's my favorite character on the show.
My biggest disappointment is that DD and Elektra didn't do a proper team-up with the Punisher in the last episode. The Hand ninjas aren't technically alive, so DD should have had no problem with Punisher cutting them to pieces. It would have been a nice ending to the Punisher arc, of him being a hero (of sorts) and working with others, and it would have tied two disparate stories together in a satisfying way.
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Looks like critics really didn't like season 2.
http://www.rottentomatoes.com/tv/daredevil/?search=daredevil
I honestly don't know what critics use to judge something positive or negative. I know it's just their opinions, but still.
http://www.rottentomatoes.com/tv/daredevil/?search=daredevil
I honestly don't know what critics use to judge something positive or negative. I know it's just their opinions, but still.
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