Marvel films, it's time for a Black female lead

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  1. DEWLine

    DEWLine Commodore Commodore

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    Yeah, it's well past time for such a movie. And we're bogged down in the minutiae of which character's going to get the nod first, aren't we?
     
  2. Santa Cruise

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    Hey apparently you're claiming to be a black lesbian woman when you're actually a tubby old white guy

    What's up with that?
     
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  4. Guy Gardener

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    I looked through a list of 200 marvel women. There was maybe 10 black women. The one name that did strike me was M.

    Black, Lesbian, Mutant, Muslim Woman.
     
  5. Tosk

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    Monet is gay? Huh. I guess I haven't read her in a comic for a long time. (Probably not since Generation X.)

    Must be a crappy list, I could almost name ten myself, and I'm shit. M, Storm, Ms Marvel, Ironheart, Misty Knight, Shuri, Claire Temple, Ms America, Spectrum, uh...Black Widow. ;)
     
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  6. theenglish

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    The obvious choice for a movie is Ms. Marvel. Hits a similar dynamic to the current Spidey movies.

    Misty and Colleen would be a great movie as well.
     
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  7. Happy X-Mas (War Is Over)

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    Isn't Ms Marvel Pakistani-American? And Miss America (Chavez) is Hispanic.
     
  8. Nyotarules

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    Neither can catch a cab in NYC at night, skin tone trumps class in the USA

    They can create new characters. All established characters were once new, and we are no longer in an era that assumes the human default = white male or white female (ok some of the audience no longer tolerates this mindset)

    I gave up comics after I discovered boys, probably a huge mistake!
     
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  9. BeatleJWOL

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    Marvel has a perfect one:

    https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Riri_Williams_(Earth-616)

    Iron Man 4: Iron Heart

    Main characters could include the eponymous heroine, War Machine, Shuri, and some token white character :D (maybe the kid from Iron Man 3!)

    Make Riri a not-snapped American teenager obsessed with Tony Stark and Wakanda.
     
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  10. Professor Zoom

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    I would LOVE a Ms. Marvel movie. She's a great character.
     
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  11. Ripped Shirt

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    I always thought of Zoe Saldana as one of the leads in Guardians Of The Galaxy.

    Marvel's one of the last places we should really be looking for lack of strong female or ethnic representation. So much so I found the 'Ladies of Marvel' bit in Endgame a bit jarring and unnecessary.
     
  12. The Scrooge Doctor

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    I'm still hoping for a Daughters of the Dragon series once Netflix no longer holds the rights.
     
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    Lets do the math! I'm using the United States racial breakdown, for simplicity, since Marvel is an American company
    White: 72%
    Black:13%
    Asian 5%

    Hispanic is 16% but 65% of those are White and the rest is "Other".

    so that's 9 films with white men (one Hispanic)
    9 films with White Women (one Hispanic)
    3 black led films
    and one Asian led film

    that adds up to 22, I did some rounding.

    Don't have time to figure out how all the individual films break down, I'll be back later.


    Lets not get rid of yet another redhead, shall we, after the whole little mermaid situation? My wife needs someone to dress up as on Halloween.
     
  14. Grendelsbayne

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    I don't think she's in danger of running out. Especially since she can still dress up as Ariel or Squirrel Girl if she wants to.

    Also, good effort on the math, I guess, but it isn't particularly relevant.
     
  15. UssGlenn

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    Actual Racial Breakdown of all Title characters, not including the Avengers or Guardians
    14 1/2 White men (but only 7 separate characters)
    1 1/2 White women (AntMan and the Wasp splits between the two)
    1 Black man

    The Guardians are more diverse than they seem at first glance
    In Volume one there's
    2 white guys (Quill and Rocket)
    1 black Hispanic woman (Gamora)
    1 Asian man (Drax) Bautista is half Filipino
    1 racially ambiguous (Groot)

    Volume 2 adds
    1 white guy (Yondu)
    1 white woman (Nebula)
    1 Asian woman (Mantis) Klementieff is Half Korean

    I don't even know how to count the Avengers beyond the first film.
     
  16. Happy X-Mas (War Is Over)

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    I think there is a difference between the actor and the character. Rooker, Cooper, Bautista, Saladana, Gillan, Klementieff and Diesel aren't playing humans or people of their own races. Heck, Cooper just does Rocket's voice! The cast is a very diversified group of humans. The characters, well the only human character is a straight, white male.
     
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    I can't believe we are playing racial math to determine who has value. America is so fucked! Do people loose points if they are American white/black vs say British white/black?:confused: Jason
     
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  18. Guy Gardener

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    They were on the list.

    10ish black women, 4 green women, some Asian Women, a few middle Eastern women, 1 native american woman and 200 attractive white women.

    https://comicvine.gamespot.com/profile/jake279/lists/female-marvel-characters/68059/
     
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    I’d like to see an Ironheart movie.

    And I really want to see Storm finally done right. She was worshipped as a goddess, actually depict her as being worthy of it. Someone like Beyoncé, cast her.
     
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    So, in the end, the whole point of this thread was to find a backdoor approach for a single poster to continue to express their irrational hatred of Natalie Portman. Got it.
     
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