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What grade would you give the Marvel Cinematic Universe? (Ever-Changing Question)


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I mean, bringing Ultron back I can get with. If the show is also about White Vision trying to find out what happened to Wanda and maybe revive her I can get with it.
 
Agents of SHIELD. It's a shame that this show has been abandoned by the MCU. The show can easily be reinserted into continuity by saying the 4th (?) season ended with the team in an alternate timeline. The attack on Earth was never specified but could easily have been a variation of what happened in the movies. It would be great to see the team, or part of the team, return to the main MCU as they were clearly part of the MCU (both on screen and in real world discussions) up until Infinity War.
 
Agents of SHIELD. It's a shame that this show has been abandoned by the MCU. The show can easily be reinserted into continuity by saying the 4th (?) season ended with the team in an alternate timeline. The attack on Earth was never specified but could easily have been a variation of what happened in the movies. It would be great to see the team, or part of the team, return to the main MCU as they were clearly part of the MCU (both on screen and in real world discussions) up until Infinity War.

An alternate timeline is one valid interpretation, yes. But I still think season 6 can be rationalized as taking place post-Snap in the "Sacred Timeline," with the world still in the denial stage of grief and just trying to avoid talking about it, and before things have deteriorated to the level we see 4 years later in Endgame. The story was contained enough, showing little enough of the larger world, that we can't rule out a post-Snap setting. And the Snap didn't affect every cast uniformly -- for instance, pretty much the whole Spider-Man and Ant-Man casts were wiped out, but the Iron Man cast and the founding Avengers were basically intact -- so it's possible that the AoS cast remained intact through the luck of the draw.

I think the bigger continuity problem at this point is that AoS established the emergence of the Inhumans having a big impact on society, yet nothing in the subsequent MCU has acknowledged them. That can be handwaved, I guess, but if we start to get X-Men movies or streaming shows doing the same kind of discrimination-allegory stories with mutants, it could get tricky, since you'd think it would come up if the world had already faced these questions years before.
 
I think the bigger continuity problem at this point is that AoS established the emergence of the Inhumans having a big impact on society, yet nothing in the subsequent MCU has acknowledged them. That can be handwaved, I guess, but if we start to get X-Men movies or streaming shows doing the same kind of discrimination-allegory stories with mutants, it could get tricky, since you'd think it would come up if the world had already faced these questions years before.

I agree with that assessment--still wishing that the movie division had collaborated enough with the movie division to allow some kind of incorporated storyline for that season. I also think that if the Inhumans had been better received/written and produced that we would be in a much different place within the MCU right now.
 
I agree with that assessment--still wishing that the movie division had collaborated enough with the movie division to allow some kind of incorporated storyline for that season. I also think that if the Inhumans had been better received/written and produced that we would be in a much different place within the MCU right now.
That might have been what Ike Perlmutter originally intended as Inhumans was pretty much his baby from the start. Recall that Inhumans was initially announced to be a movie, and it got the ax from the schedule by Kevin Feige pretty much the moment the moment that Perlmutter was removed from the picture. Perlmutter then had the TV division resurrect the project in what was a very high profile manner, including a limited theatrical release for the premiere. Perlmutter was also the one behind the big push on the Inhumans in the comics at around that same time.
 
To be fair I should rewatch those episodes myself and judge again. I sounded a bit nasty there for no good reason so I apologize and to @The Nth Doctor in particular.
No need to apologize. I didn't take it as nasty and instead as a legitimate question.

And to answer it, I thought his performance of that particular version of Deathlok was pretty good. To be perfectly fair, I want Richards to return so we would have that connection with Agents of SHIELD. I think such a return would work and his origin could be briefly recounted without making new viewers feeling left out.

Agents of SHIELD. It's a shame that this show has been abandoned by the MCU. The show can easily be reinserted into continuity by saying the 4th (?) season ended with the team in an alternate timeline. The attack on Earth was never specified but could easily have been a variation of what happened in the movies. It would be great to see the team, or part of the team, return to the main MCU as they were clearly part of the MCU (both on screen and in real world discussions) up until Infinity War.
Yup, I completely agree. I keep hoping for at least Daisy to show up at some point. Still holding onto hope...
 
More details about Agatha All Along and how the season is structured similarly to WandaVision (which we already knew but not as detailed):

Much like how WandaVision would homage a different sitcom format with each new episode, Entertainment Weekly reveals Agatha All Along will play with the varying portrayals of witches in pop culture. However, according to showrunner Jac Schaeffer, “We’re a little squirrelly with it.”​
The EW article explains that after Agatha (Kathryn Hahn) breaks free from the spell Wanda Maximoff (Elizabeth Olsen) used to bind her at the end of WandaVision, she forms a coven with Patti LuPone’s “divination witch, Lilia Calderu; Sasheer Zamata’s potions expert, Jennifer Kale; Alice Ahn’s protector witch, Alice Wu-Gullive; Aubrey Plaza’s warrior witch, Rio Vida; and Debra Jo Rupp’s Westview resident, Mrs. Hart” to walk the Witches’ Road, “a mystical realm that presents its visitors with a series of trials” that resembles the Yellow Brick Road from The Wizard of Oz. If Agatha’s coven fails these trials, they die—but if they succeed, their “deepest desire” will be granted to them. Talk about high stakes, high rewards, right?​
As the Witches’ Road also possess a sense of humor, each “trial” will see our offbeat Marvel heroes outfitted in new costumes reflecting different witches of stage and screen. According to Schaeffer, one episode will see the coven dressed as “a Fleetwood Mac-style band.” How does she justify this, you ask? Well, “we’re in ‘Season of the Witch’ and that kind of thing. It doesn’t have that same abundantly clear thread, but it was our system to be able to pull that fun into the show.”​
Later in the piece, Schaeffer reveals another episode will homage Practical Magic, noting, “that’s my personal brand of ladies in their coastal grandma chic that are backstabbing and duplicitous and fighting for spots at the private school. Those are witches. That’s a coven.”​
If visual homages to Stevie Nicks and Nicole Kidman seem to strain the definition of “witch” to you, the outlet promises a separate trial will see “the cast dressed as ’80s summer campers messing with a ouija board in their bunk house.” That’s more like it…​
Schaeffer’s self-described “system” for determining which witches to reference “casts a wider net” than she originally expected. “The world building expands. The first idea was that they would have these trials as witches,” the showrunner explained. “In early days, the tests were sort of like, there’s a fire trial, there’s a water trial. But then, how do we get the illusions in there? How do we get the pop culture in there? Real talk: how do we get the wardrobe and the production design in there? So that was the trick and the guiding light.”​

I don't normally quote whole articles but I honestly love everything that's said here that I had to share it all directly. I'm seriously excited about this show and probably the most excited I've been for an MCU show since the first season of What If...?
 
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If one of them doesn't ride a broom while wearing a pointy hat in at least one scene I will be a little disappointed.
 
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