Marvel All New, All Different - Ongoing Discussion (Spoilers)

Discussion in 'Science Fiction & Fantasy' started by Admiral_Young, May 30, 2010.

  1. DEWLine

    DEWLine Commodore Commodore

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    So about that "Siancong War" retconning the military career histories of everyone from Xavier and Marko to Richards, Grimm and Stark to Castle?
     
  2. YLu

    YLu Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

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    First off, if they were really pointless, you could just skip them. They'd be a win-win situation for everyone, since people who like them would get to read them and people who don't can just move on to the next page the same way they do for ads. I myself skip the recap page of most comics (the notable exception being Kieron Gillen's stuff, where he turns being economical yet still clever into a fascinating art all its own.)

    They *aren't* pointless, though. Whether you find their contributions boring or not is opinion, but that they do contribute to the story is undeniable fact.

    He's already turned it into a flagship book. :shrug:
     
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  3. Relayer1

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    I loved the reams of 'additional material' in Watchmen and purchased the annotated guides to League of Extraordinary Gentlemen too.
     
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  4. Turtletrekker

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    The history of Marvel Earth has been retconed to now include the fictional "Sin-Cong conflict", a fictional war designed to float along with Marvel's sliding time scale in order to accommodate the military service of characters like Frank Castle and James Rhodes, who served in Vietnam originally, and Reed Richards and Ben Grimm who served in World War II originally.

    https://www.cbr.com/marvel-universe...0Tif0QxjFQ1vhYc2RiH_uKhf4ithEFgXXbv6xHH9653xM
     
  5. JD

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    That's a nice way to work around the sliding timescale in relation to the different wars and when they happened relative to today.
     
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  6. Nerys Myk

    Nerys Myk MSGT USAF 1947-1972 Premium Member

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    Some sloppy research with Ben Grimm, though. They say he's served in the Army Air Force. Two problems with that. The Army Air Force ceased to exist in 1947 when the US Air Force was created and Grimm was previously established as being a Marine Corps pilot. I expect better from Mark Waid.
     
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  7. YLu

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    I highly doubt Waid's the one doing the heavy lifting on the research in this series. He's incredibly knowledgeable about the classic stuff but doesn't really keep up much with modern stuff.
     
  8. DEWLine

    DEWLine Commodore Commodore

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    There's nine people on the research team to support Mark's work on # 1. A tenth is added for # 2.
     
  9. Hound of UIster

    Hound of UIster Vice Admiral Admiral

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    I believe most of those guys are known Marvel continuity nerds. One of them I think runs a comic site dedicated to cataloging obscure Marvel characters (http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/).
     
  10. DEWLine

    DEWLine Commodore Commodore

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    Yes, Ben's USMC history was established as far back as FF v.1 # 11.
     
  11. DEWLine

    DEWLine Commodore Commodore

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    One thing that came to my mind last night: Karma AKA Xi'an Coy Manh. Her own backstory was originally tied to the fall of South Vietnam and she was introduced at age 16, I believe, in Marvel Team-Up v.1 # 100. She and her family could probably hold onto their ancestry as Vietnamese, but 1975 is too far in the past for the Modern Age of Marvels to allow her to have been born prior to that point now. Will Marvel tie her family's backstory to Siancong/Sin-Cong or to Madripoor at this point?
     
  12. JD

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  13. DEWLine

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    I'm led to understand that much of the creative team on Aero is based in mainland China? Translations done on this side of the Pacific?
     
  14. JD

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    I thought the comics were just done in English, but I might have been mistaken.
     
  15. DEWLine

    DEWLine Commodore Commodore

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    I'm not sure either.
     
  16. Savage Dragon

    Savage Dragon Your Savage Overlord Moderator

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    I accidentally came across news that Issue #18 will be the last for Iron Man. Was it not doing well? I'm of mixed feelings about the book myself and have definitely not been enjoying it as much as the Bendis run.
     
  17. Turtletrekker

    Turtletrekker Admiral Admiral

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    Probably just a creative team change. Canceling and renewing books has very little to do with sales these days.
     
  18. Savage Dragon

    Savage Dragon Your Savage Overlord Moderator

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    That drives me nuts. I wish they had kept the old numbering in place when they were on their whole legacy kick.
     
  19. Turtletrekker

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    Doesn't Marvel include both the new number and the legacy number on their comics these days?
     
  20. Savage Dragon

    Savage Dragon Your Savage Overlord Moderator

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    Yes, but I just prefer the original numbering. I started reading Amazing Spider-Man in the 200s and seeing the issue numbers creep higher and higher was a lot of fun.
     
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