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Spoilers Lucifer - Season 2

More importantly, it shows that "Dad" is thinking 35 years ahead of everyone. That's one heck of a chess player they're dealing with.
 
Now we know Chloe's big secret...she's 35 years old, oh and that other thing. Quite a few plot advances in that one, Lucifer and Chloe have moved further in their relationship even if that final moment turns out to be a misdirection, Mama Helfer's new tactics on Lucifer, Amenadiel and Maze, and Maze and Dan(!!!).

Silly as it is Amenadiel holding the steering wheel in his therapy session brought a chuckle out of me.
 
Silly as it is Amenadiel holding the steering wheel in his therapy session brought a chuckle out of me.

Just to nitpick, Linda pointed out that it wasn't a formal therapy session, just a conversation between friends. Though it was certainly blurring the lines, what with being in her office and all...
 
Just to nitpick, Linda pointed out that it wasn't a formal therapy session, just a conversation between friends. Though it was certainly blurring the lines, what with being in her office and all...
Just her relationships in general probably make it hard for it too ever be truly formal but I got the impression she was trying at first and then offered some "as a friend" advice at the end. I think when they are in her office Linda does consider it formal when it comes to confidentiality and a session where the client and their needs comes first.
 
Just her relationships in general probably make it hard for it too ever be truly formal but I got the impression she was trying at first and then offered some "as a friend" advice at the end. I think when they are in her office Linda does consider it formal when it comes to confidentiality and a session where the client and their needs comes first.

Yeah, but since Amenadiel still maintains his office next door to her, I assume that it was more the sort of thing where he just showed up and said "Can we talk for a bit?" rather than something where he made a formal appointment and is paying her for her time. Normally she might be reluctant to let him take up time that should be reserved for paying clients, but given that she's recently found out that he's an actual messenger of God, she's probably willing to make allowances.
 
Just caught up on the first 3 eps of the second half, and those were probably 3 good episodes to watch all at once. Instead of the usual murder of the week, we actually got a bit of an extended story or multi-parter here.

Just her relationships in general probably make it hard for it too ever be truly formal but I got the impression she was trying at first and then offered some "as a friend" advice at the end. I think when they are in her office Linda does consider it formal when it comes to confidentiality and a session where the client and their needs comes first.
And now her lunch breaks are being infringed upon for free advice. (Who would do that? I'll kill 'em!)

I got a kick out of the scene where the 4 celestial beings are discussing what to do in Lucifer's pad, and then the camera cuts to Linda, standing there looking very out of place.

But she was defnitely heavily involved in these episodes. That was nice.


Can't blame Lucifer at all for his reaction at the end of this episode. Totally justified. He was very much manipulated and obviously steered into this relationship.

Weird to see Chloe being the agressive one for a while there. Funny how she wasn't exactly very good at it either.

I do like how they seem to have ventured a little bit further away from the standard murder of the week formula.
 
The thread hasn't been active in a while, but now that it is I'll share my thoughts.
The last few episodes have been really.
I'm glad we finally an explanations for Chloe, but it still leaves the question of what exactly Dad is up to with her.
I liked getting to see hell again, and Lucifer's being him murdering Uriel over and over again was interesting.
 
I just watched the last three episodes. Great stuff as usual. It's too bad we have to wait until May for more.

Edit: I am not sure what to think about this show's version of hell, though. Lucifer said people stay there until or unless they believe themselves good. That seems counter-intuitive to me. In my experience, the better people are the ones who question their own actions in order to improve as people, and the jerks never seem to question their worth. Abused people also often believe themselves to be 'bad' because they have been told so by their abusers. That doesn't actually mean they are bad people or more deserving of torment.
 
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Edit: I am not sure what to think about this show's version of hell, though. Lucifer said people stay there until or unless they believe themselves good. That seems counter-intuitive to me. In my experience, the better people are the ones who question their own actions in order to improve as people, and the jerks never seem to question their worth. Abused people also often believe themselves to be 'bad' because they have been told so by their abusers. That doesn't actually mean they are bad people or more deserving of torment.

It's not so much that they believe themselves good as that they stop considering themselves guilty and deserving of punishment. Basically they damn themselves with their own awareness of their guilt. If it's an undeserved guilt, maybe they can eventually recognize they aren't to blame (although hellish punishment seems like a pretty ineffectual form of therapy to me).

It's an idea I've seen before in fiction, that your personal Hell is based on whatever punishment you believe, in the most honest part of your soul, that you deserve. I don't think it so much that your own sense of worth determines whether you get sent to Hell in the first place -- because then you're right, the people who deserved it least would be the ones who sent themselves there while the worst, most evil narcissists would go to the paradise they thought they deserved -- so much that your actions determine where you get sent, and after that, it's up to you to redeem yourself or not. Maybe.
 
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