Spoilers Lucifer - Season 2
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Lol for the barking kid chained to the goalpost and Chloe gloating about the high bail for Kimo and then Lucifer paying it. This show needed some laughs since the ending was pretty dark.
Lucifer and Amenadiel are clearly being manipulated or tricked by their Mum, and Uriel was right to percieve her as a threat, but man that guy was a dick. Beating up a weakened older brother, and then wanting to kill both Chloe and Mum just to spite Lucifer at the end. You almost wonder if Dad wanted Uriel eliminated as part of His Plan. Was Lucifer doing Dad's dirty work again without even realizing it?
Though looking in the shorter term, surely Lucifer will get in trouble for killing Uriel, won't he? Other angels will come looking for vengeance. Even if Uriel started the whole process by taking the Angel of Death's blade in the first place.
Interesting episode that gave me a lot to think about.
Lucifer and Amenadiel are clearly being manipulated or tricked by their Mum, and Uriel was right to percieve her as a threat, but man that guy was a dick. Beating up a weakened older brother, and then wanting to kill both Chloe and Mum just to spite Lucifer at the end. You almost wonder if Dad wanted Uriel eliminated as part of His Plan. Was Lucifer doing Dad's dirty work again without even realizing it?
Though looking in the shorter term, surely Lucifer will get in trouble for killing Uriel, won't he? Other angels will come looking for vengeance. Even if Uriel started the whole process by taking the Angel of Death's blade in the first place.
Interesting episode that gave me a lot to think about.
Okay, now I'm wondering why Lucifer isn't named according to the "-el" pattern. Of course it's because it's the Latin translation of the name from the King James Bible, and apparently the Hebrew version in the original text of Isaiah was "hêlêl," though evidently not from the same "-el" root (meaning "God"). I dunno, in-show, maybe it's an act of rebellion that he adopted a variant form of his name. Or maybe it's because he's such an egotist and wants to advertise who he is in terms his audience would recognize.
This was a pretty effective episode. The way Chloe talked Mark Dacascos's character down was brilliant. It's also nice to see them getting beyond the crime-of-the-week stuff and bringing in more of the supernatural/mythology stuff (in the sense of TV-series "mythology" as well as the other sense). It suggests that maybe we'll be getting more of that as time goes on, and maybe more elements from the DC/Vertigo comics this show is loosely based on.
Speaking of which, I loved it that the book Chloe was reading to her kid was Coraline -- by Neil Gaiman, creator of DC's Lucifer.
This was a pretty effective episode. The way Chloe talked Mark Dacascos's character down was brilliant. It's also nice to see them getting beyond the crime-of-the-week stuff and bringing in more of the supernatural/mythology stuff (in the sense of TV-series "mythology" as well as the other sense). It suggests that maybe we'll be getting more of that as time goes on, and maybe more elements from the DC/Vertigo comics this show is loosely based on.
Speaking of which, I loved it that the book Chloe was reading to her kid was Coraline -- by Neil Gaiman, creator of DC's Lucifer.
Uriel seemed to really have gone over the edge of sanity, what with the sword and a rather demonic act of spite (planning to kill both Mum and Chloe)--Lucifer called him mad and I don't think he was far off. All that pattern watching and manipulation might have left Uriel a few boats short of a flotilla. He may have looked a little too deeply into dad's plans. Also, Uriel, because of his being picked on as a kid, may have had a deep need for "adult" approval, as that was the only approval he could get for so long.
I don't think any other angels are going to be anxious to kill--as in consign to oblivion--a brother or sister or even mum, no matter what Lucifer has done. And Lucifer has made an excellent point that his more sane brethren might automatically take into account themselves: not one of them REALLY knows what dad wants.
Azrael will probably show up for the sword though. Wasn't this one described as a female?
The bonding over the Body Bags movies between Lucy and Dan cracked me up.
I was thinking how glad I am that they haven't been cast, that they are just referred to, so they don't take up any valuable screen time. We can maybe just ignore them except as a humorous plot device and that's fine by me.
I didn't even put the fact that they called Death a she into the proper context until just now. I remembered just now that I believe there is a possibility that The Endless could appear on the show, so now I'm really hoping that she does appear eventually.
This was a great one.
The conflict with Uriel was interesting, and lead to a great scene there at the end. I did seem to me that Uriel was pretty much just using the situation to get revenge on his brothers. It will be interesting to see what the ramifications of his death will be.
Mom and Maze dealing with the kid was hilarious.
I loved Lucifer and Dan fangirling over the action movies.
This was a great one.
The conflict with Uriel was interesting, and lead to a great scene there at the end. I did seem to me that Uriel was pretty much just using the situation to get revenge on his brothers. It will be interesting to see what the ramifications of his death will be.
Mom and Maze dealing with the kid was hilarious.
I loved Lucifer and Dan fangirling over the action movies.
It's because Hell isn't a neighbor world to Krypton.
Why not? Daxum is apparently a neighbor world to Krypton now. The more the merrier.
Okay, that's weird. She said Samael meant "Light-bringer," but that's what Hêlêl means, with "Lucifer" being its literal translation into Latin. "Samael" means "Venom of God" and referred to the angel of death in Jewish lore, as your link says. I wonder why they fudged it like that. I guess they were going by the comics, in which the character's full name is apparently Lucifer Samael Morningstar, but that's not necessarily the same thing.
The suffix is -el, not -iel. It means "God." There are angel names that have other letters before the -el, like Michael and Samael.
Crowley, I think.
I know that, I didn't consider it necessary to drag it down to that detail when it wasn't needed. My point, as if it wasn't clear, was that Angels have orders of names as well as formes, that do not conform to one standard across all of them.
Three Orders cannot manifest to Humans and carry no names or identities that we could comprehend. Only 6 Orders (Seraphim, Archangels, Angels, Cerabum etc) do so.
It's a bit much to expect millions of beings to bother conforming to an el/iel/eel/ael rule.
I didn't "expect." I asked a question.
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