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Lt.Kyle

Oh please the change wasn't that drastic. To somehow try and claim TNG was a 'foundation', when in fact they changed the look for every single film that followed; and even in TNG updated the look each season...yeah, give me a break.
If Discovery's Klingon makeup had changed as subtly as the TNG makeup did over the years, no one would've noticed or cared.
 
Have you ever been to an alien world?
Not lately. Travel restrictions, you know?

If Discovery's Klingon makeup had changed as subtly as the TNG makeup did over the years, no one would've noticed or cared.
Maybe. The point is that change is a part of Trek's history, big and small. Treating one as worse than the other strikes me as incongruent, at best.
 
Having humanoid aliens is not realistic, right out of the gate.

But Star Trek is not hard science fiction; it has many fantasy elements, including humanoid aliens. We accept that, and go with it, because it's fine.

But it's actually quite theatrical. Being so choosy about what theatrical tropes to accept is therefore... odd.
 
Oh please the change wasn't that drastic. To somehow try and claim TNG was a 'foundation', when in fact they changed the look for every single film that followed; and even in TNG updated the look each season...yeah, give me a break.

The updates were minimal during TNG. TMP laid the foundation for the look of all the other series and movies. But the producers of discovery decide to throw it all out and make them a bunch of bald headed big giant heads. With a gray skin tone. :guffaw:

You guys can be apologists all you want but I know the real reason for the change.
 
Not lately. Travel restrictions, you know?


Maybe. The point is that change is a part of Trek's history, big and small. Treating one as worse than the other strikes me as incongruent, at best.
TNG's Klingon design was far more established than the original look, after three 26-eps-a-year series with a Klingon as a main character. Really any Klingon that looks dramatically different to Worf will not be accepted if there's an implication that Worf must look dramatically different as well.
 
And?
I expect variety in the Klingons, not one phenotype. ENT provides all the explanation needed, including Discovery's Klingons.

Haha. I would agree but all we saw season one were bald headed big heads wearing fancy gold gilded armor with noses that looked nothing like previous klingons.... :guffaw:
 
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April and Kyle have nothing on X-Men's Trask.

Colt... probably about par.
 
The changes from top to tng weren't thst extensive. I mean std had purple klingons lol. They also had double sets of nostrils. Where th heck did that come from? Lol.

Oh yeah. ..The QUAD NOSTRILS...or Q'NOS for short...:guffaw:..get it?? .....Q'onos...:klingon:
 
That's not a change in the design of Klingon makeup, that's different people looking different.
Exactly. They need to put the purple/grey, bald giant head quad nostril in there. Guess which one is gonna stick out like a sore thumb???:guffaw:
 
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