We don't know for sure it was automated footage from one of their security systems. Perhaps one Vulcan on board was affected to a less, but still severely enough degree to start acting human. More specifically, like those humans that when they see an accident happening, whip out their phones and start filming instead of trying to help ....
Little things in Trek that just bug you...
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We don't know for sure it was automated footage from one of their security systems. Perhaps one Vulcan on board was affected to a less, but still severely enough degree to start acting human. More specifically, like those humans that when they see an accident happening, whip out their phones and start filming instead of trying to help ....
I was being sarcastic but I get your point. T'Pol used that substance and in the end felt more human.
Not particularly effective, given the number of Humans in senior positions.
apepa now agrees with you 97%
And why not? After all Kirk had been out of the academy for several years by that point, and had no apparent upper level management, administrative or political experience.
Starfleet might be different of course, but in the US military, a promotions board makes a recommendation to the White House, the White House staff vets the recommendations, background checks from the time they were a child, social and political considerations are taken into account.
And then the President directly selects who is promoted to Admiral (Generals too).
Things that bug me, dividing the entire galaxy into four subdivisions, and then treating those subdivisions as meaningful navigational references.
We live our entire lives by arbitrary fractions of the day.
The Kelvin movies treat ranks as roles, handing out whatever anyone needs at any time. But since Starfleet isn't a military (), why not?
Because, even that's true (and there's at least definition drift at work there), it's still not an excuse because it doesn't (usually) work that way in any other government agency (which it definately is) either. You don't go from being a rookie patrolman to precinct commander in one jump or the (deputy) chief ranks in two, in any major police force. Likewise, FBI (and similar) agents have to go through the Special Agent rank(s) before they get to be 'in charge' and then prove themselves at that level before having a chance to become a director, and prove themselves at that level again before a shot at the top post(s). For that matter, even in retail most people spend time on the 'shop floor' (though not always for the same company), then as at least a supervisor/department manager, potentially duty/assistant manager before becoming a store manager, area/regional specialists, area/regional managers and HQ team.
This totally bugs me. If I were R. Berman I would have set a rule that the Voyager and DS9 writers could only use the phrase "_____ Quadrant" once per season, no exceptions.
Just watched Enterprise "Impulse". And something occurred to me. While I like T'Pol out of her uniform fro m time to time. Just curious if it's actual Starfleet policy or the policy of individual doctors that all female patients must be naked in their beds even if they are being treated for a neurological issue (IOW one that's in their cranium). Sometimes happens to male patients as well. I guess Phlox is just a perv.
Probably he also knew how to install automated biofilters to the ship's entry points and how to add them to the transporter all along
'Not sure what the issue is here. Sure, a quadrant is a huge chunk, but they are significantly farther away than the size of that chunk so at their position it doesn't really matter too much how precise they are - and besides everyone (both in- and out of universe) knows what is meant when they refer to the 'alpha quadrant'.
Suppose we have a movie about a group of time travelers, stranded in, oh, Sri Lanka, 100.000 BC. Bereft of any technology, they only can return to their own time when they reach the spot where the the temporal portal will be built in the future, let's say in Newark. So essentially they have to traverse half the globe using prehistoric technology, which will take them years, if they survive at all. Would it bother you then, if they sometimes colloquially referred to '(north)-America' as their target, rather than 'Newark'?
At least, that would be my response when we're talking about Voyager. For DS9 I agree it is silly to refer to the "alpha quadrant", since even the entire coalition of their forces at the end of the war (Klingons Romulans, Federation) would only make up a tiny fraction of the Alpha Quadrant.
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I wonder how long until some clown comes along and complains about how "human-centric" it is to name the one we live in the Alpha Quadrant.
^Even the Borg talk about "sector zero zero one" at least when communicating with us (either that, or it must have been the Universal Translator kicking in)
^Even the Borg talk about "sector zero zero one" at least when communicating with us (either that, or it must have been the Universal Translator kicking in)
Never mind that. What about the appropriation of Borg culture that Geordie's visor represents? I say we march on Washington! Someone needs to stand up for the rights of fictional alien people!
March with me for justice, people! I know it's hard, but the door out of your parents' basement is only a few feet away!
#OccupyStarTrek
#BorgLivesMatter
#BorgLivesBioMatter
Am I the only person who gets confused by like when gravity inertia seems to affect people? Like a shuttlecraft spinning upside down, why do they act like a roller coaster? Shouldn't their gravity be like totally independent? Are they upside down in relation to what? If they make a sudden turn, why do they hold on to consoles or chairs and such?
I would think that no matter what the starship is doing, it should always seem like nothing to them, because their artificial gravity is entirely self contained, so no one should really notice movement of the ship. If they're in a battle or something and the system goes down, instead of shaking around I'd think they'd start floating instead, like in The Undiscovered Country.
Maybe I just don't understand the science well enough, but my layperson logic is just totally confused.
I would think that no matter what the starship is doing, it should always seem like nothing to them, because their artificial gravity is entirely self contained, so no one should really notice movement of the ship. If they're in a battle or something and the system goes down, instead of shaking around I'd think they'd start floating instead, like in The Undiscovered Country.
Maybe I just don't understand the science well enough, but my layperson logic is just totally confused.
Honestly i think its more for drama. It looks better on screen. They also have inertial dampers to prevent that, but they seem to go down often
It depends. If you perform a sharp turn in a plane or even in a car, you tend to feel g-forces from your inertia pulling you in the opposite direction, and this effect is completely independent of the Earth's gravity which only pulls you down. So artificial gravity alone wouldn't prevent people feeling the effects of inertia.
The inertial dampeners are a different story, however. Their supposed function is to stop people and equipment flying about all over the place, and the ship from shearing itself apart.
You could plausibly explain that the system is predictive, so normal starship movements would automatically cause the dampeners to ramp up to a certain level, but the unpredictability of combat would mean that there's a delay while the dampening system reacts to unexpected input.
And/or that the weapons themselves are designed to cause momentary lapses in effectiveness to the systems...thus creating more damage and more internal chaos. And, if not "designed" specifically to do so...then it is just a side effect.
Well it's the future, i expect them to use future tech which often includes lots of technobabble. I would feel more cheated if they fixed things with duct tape.
But that's the easy way. It's ST's Deus Ex Machina. I'd rather they find solutions that they're capable of explaining with every day or actual scientific words. Asimov wrote hundreds of books about the future with technology up to the wazoo, yet he never used technobabble to get out of a problem he put himself into.
For example, in the foundations, they're supposed to solve their problems with complex equations, yet they never inflict them on us, instead, they explain their solutions in everyday words.
