I have mixed feelings. While I'd love to see DS9 characters again, I'd hate to see them changed in ways to make us not like them as sort of a darker Trek vs TNG optimism thing. I like a lot of what the Relaunch books have done and am not sure I want to see it heavily contradicted. That said, I really do want to know more about the characters and planets of the Alpha Quadrant 20 years later. I especially want to see Worf. He not only has the best TNG connection, but I always enjoyed his relationship with Picard. I also really want to know how the Klingons have reacted to everything going on with the Romulans since they are ancient enemies. Worf himself has never been a fan of Romulans and it would be wasted story potential imho not to involve him in the story in some way.
Kurtzman: DS9 characters could appear in Picard
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That’s a bit of a different situation. Spock was recast from his pre-TOS days, not as his present incarnation last seen in ST: Into Darkness. I wouldn’t think that recasting that Spock would be in any way, shape or form a good idea (if they hadn’t already addressed that he had died.) Same with Odo. I wouldn’t want to see the character again unless he was played by Auberjonois. Just because he can change his appearance doesn’t mean that it’s a good idea to recast him. Plus, he’s in the GQ anyway.
The trouble is, in the current paradigm, the elements they mix in from the past are all things you could reasonably expect everyone to know. They're trying to appeal to a mass audience while still having enough 'member berries for fans, so that's a deliberate strategy.
I don't know about anywhere else, but in my neck of the woods, DS9 is the only Star Trek that never gets re-run. A channel on commercial TV has an afternoon slot for Trek re-runs that cycles between TOS, TNG, and VOY. Once they get through VOY they go back to TOS and repeat. They've done this, day in day out, year in year out, in this same timeslot for the better part of half a decade or more. Never once has DS9 showed up. I wonder why sometimes. Is it because it's a step apart from 'comfortable' Star Trek, of starships and boldly going? Is it because the themes are darker, and the character arcs to intricate for a mid-afternoon syndication slot? Roddenberry always said one reason he eschewed story arc style plotting is because it's harder to sell to the 'after market' of syndication. Whatever the reason, DS9 hasn't got the profile that even VOY does. Sci-fi Channel is the same here, they have a constant rotation of TNG and VOY but won't touch any of the other Trek's at all.
I guess what I'm trying to say -- and I say this as a fan of DS9 -- is that I kind of feel it's too niche to be simply dropped into Picard. The references to it would be just a touch too esoteric for the audience that they're trying to reach. 7 of 9 is ok because practically everyone remembers that Voyager had a 'Borg babe'. Hugh and Data work because TNG still has a profile. But drop Nerys, or Garak, or Bashir into it, and it'd be kind of a 'huh?' for a lot of people, I imagine. At the very least they'd need to be more than cameos, and the episode introducing them would likely need to re-eestablish them for an audience unfamilar with them, and their backstory. 7 and Hugh are easy, they're former Borg drones and everybody knows The Borg. The intricacies and history of Cardassia and Bajor, the rich tapestry of DS9's storytelling, I think it's a tougher nut to crack, without falling into the fan-only hole they want to avoid....
I don't know about anywhere else, but in my neck of the woods, DS9 is the only Star Trek that never gets re-run. A channel on commercial TV has an afternoon slot for Trek re-runs that cycles between TOS, TNG, and VOY. Once they get through VOY they go back to TOS and repeat. They've done this, day in day out, year in year out, in this same timeslot for the better part of half a decade or more. Never once has DS9 showed up. I wonder why sometimes. Is it because it's a step apart from 'comfortable' Star Trek, of starships and boldly going? Is it because the themes are darker, and the character arcs to intricate for a mid-afternoon syndication slot? Roddenberry always said one reason he eschewed story arc style plotting is because it's harder to sell to the 'after market' of syndication. Whatever the reason, DS9 hasn't got the profile that even VOY does. Sci-fi Channel is the same here, they have a constant rotation of TNG and VOY but won't touch any of the other Trek's at all.
I guess what I'm trying to say -- and I say this as a fan of DS9 -- is that I kind of feel it's too niche to be simply dropped into Picard. The references to it would be just a touch too esoteric for the audience that they're trying to reach. 7 of 9 is ok because practically everyone remembers that Voyager had a 'Borg babe'. Hugh and Data work because TNG still has a profile. But drop Nerys, or Garak, or Bashir into it, and it'd be kind of a 'huh?' for a lot of people, I imagine. At the very least they'd need to be more than cameos, and the episode introducing them would likely need to re-eestablish them for an audience unfamilar with them, and their backstory. 7 and Hugh are easy, they're former Borg drones and everybody knows The Borg. The intricacies and history of Cardassia and Bajor, the rich tapestry of DS9's storytelling, I think it's a tougher nut to crack, without falling into the fan-only hole they want to avoid....
Its something I could see happening as a backstory for life on DS9 if Picard appeared there, since they can’t use Nog either, unfortunately. Although there could be a tribute to Nog of some sort on the station, like a statue or an award or something.
Picard going to DS9 for either resources or to get his bearings after a setback is quite plausible to me. I don’t know if all of the DS9 characters would be in one place though, or need to be.
If they’re just using them as member berries I wouldn’t care. If they are using them to improve the story and world building I’d be more interested.
I thought it was well established that France was Picard's go-to place to get his bearings after a setback.
And if he did go to the Bajor sector, it would probably be to Bajor, not to DS9. Unless he wanted to say hello to Worf or O'Brien or even Sisko.
Which DS9 characters did Picard have direct interaction with? I think it was just O'Brien and Sisko, and O'Brien originated on TNG. I know that both Quark and Bashir appeared in TNG episodes, but I'm pretty sure that Picard was never in the same scene with either. I guess Gowron could be counted as a DS9 character, but he also originated in TNG and anyway he's dead.
Edit: I forgot about Morn, who also appears on TNG although not with Picard. Actually, a Morn cameo with him in the background of some random bar scene would be pretty cool.
Edit: I forgot about Morn, who also appears on TNG although not with Picard. Actually, a Morn cameo with him in the background of some random bar scene would be pretty cool.
I guess Picard had interaction with Quark as Armin Shimerman he played Daimon Letek in the first season of TNG.
Also, Shimerman was way too hard on himself on him making the entire species a joke, it was the writing, direction and entire makeup of them that made them a joke, not him. Quark fixed what Letek and his crew ruined.
Yes, it was a writing and direction decision much more than the actor... but if it motivated him to make Quark a terrific character, when necessary nudging the writers and directors in the right way, it came out well in the end.
Right, the only reason to get a DS9 character involved is if the story happened to take them to a place it makes sense for a DS9 character to be.
But if they wanted to involve S31 at all Bashir would be a logical choice.
Not to mention if he ever went back to “Frontier medicine” would he not be hanging out around Romulan settlements?
But if they wanted to involve S31 at all Bashir would be a logical choice.
Not to mention if he ever went back to “Frontier medicine” would he not be hanging out around Romulan settlements?
Is it beetle snuff (to replace one of his crewmember's current habits)?
Well, if you want to deal with someone who doesn’t care if it’s illegal but is known to have limits and be totally nonviolent, Quark’s your guy, and Riker knows him personally.
If you mean Benjamin Sisko, he's dead, and is going to stay that way, according to Behr.
Although those books are loved by you and a lot of other people, they're not canon, and aren't going to be used by the writers of this show anyway, especially since said plots form said books would deviate from the main story of the series, and may not be what the writers of the show want to use if the DS9 characters are used.
All of that might happen, if the writers want to tackle it; they may want to go off in a different path. And Dorn (apparently) said he won't come back as Worf only for a glorified cameo.*
*/It's now been confirmed.
DS9 is now on Netflix, so there's no excuse for people not to see it and understand it.
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Watch the documentary.
It would seem Quark's has become a franchise. There is a Quark's bar seen on Freecloud. (right next to "Mr. Motts hair emporium").
Behr isn't involved with Trek anymore. Kurtzman is, and if he wants Sisko back, then that's simply what will happen.
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