Janeway was never married. She was engaged twice.
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Well, Tuvok really didn't seem to.
Huh. Interesting. I thought it was exactly the opposite. She was the one who just wanted to be friends and he was the one who continued carrying a torch. I would enjoy hearing more about why you have the above opinion. (That's not sarcasm or me being an ass. I'd really be interested to know.)
And! I really really wanna know who voted "more lizards"!
I swear it wasn't me. So come on, 'fess up! Who was it?
Thanks for that, but I am still stumped. Perhaps I am supposed to be?
Kirk beat up a bloke, might have been a girl, who had hir groin in hir knee.
Aliens are alien.
We have met countless parasitic lifeforms who lay eggs inside people that might just be autofetilyzing for all we know... or like fish who spawn rather than birth where the bloke after hand sprays all over a field of eggs and then wanders off with out any thought of commitment (Nemo wouldn't have had the same relationship with his father if he had 40 thousand siblings, no?)which means that it could just be more of commentary on the social structure and how it is the parenting which is unobserved than that the blokes are having zero input on the dna introduction/sex like those scaly buggers who impregnated Tucker on Enterprise, or they could be a race of clones, did we see any belly buttons? And what about that asexual "person" Riker fell in love with? It said something about their babies being born in husks, but certainly no father and mother.... Andorians have four genders, all of which we suppose are needed to make a baby, which means several shades of daddy and mommy are involved down the road, and species 8472 have 8 genders, whch makes everythign twice as complicated, and haven't your arguments in the Enterprise forum about progenitor been riveting?
But if Jaffen was patterned after an insect (seen Aliens recently?), then perhaps he is a drone and sexless as others have surmised, but just because he may not have been born with junk, that's hardly any barrier at all to bringing Janeway to climax if he puts his mind to it.
What about the black groom (is that what they are called?)spiders? They can only orgasm as their head is being ripped off and eaten by the female of the species. Maybe that's it? None of them have any fathers because their mothers kill their fathers during coitus? How was he expected to get any sexual release if janeway didn't eat him for dinner?
Then of course there's the sex pits of Denobulous during mating season, where one cannot be entirely sure who's one's father is even before you start adding clues like their perfect sharpshooting skills and fear of touching that I do believe that Denobulans breed during orgies from a distance of several dozen meters and in a cross fire causing collateral inception despite the most best intentions of those locked and loaded out side of the chalked ring outline of the vaginerial strike zone.
Three Men and Baby had nothing on these bastards.
Aliens are alien.
We have met countless parasitic lifeforms who lay eggs inside people that might just be autofetilyzing for all we know... or like fish who spawn rather than birth where the bloke after hand sprays all over a field of eggs and then wanders off with out any thought of commitment (Nemo wouldn't have had the same relationship with his father if he had 40 thousand siblings, no?)which means that it could just be more of commentary on the social structure and how it is the parenting which is unobserved than that the blokes are having zero input on the dna introduction/sex like those scaly buggers who impregnated Tucker on Enterprise, or they could be a race of clones, did we see any belly buttons? And what about that asexual "person" Riker fell in love with? It said something about their babies being born in husks, but certainly no father and mother.... Andorians have four genders, all of which we suppose are needed to make a baby, which means several shades of daddy and mommy are involved down the road, and species 8472 have 8 genders, whch makes everythign twice as complicated, and haven't your arguments in the Enterprise forum about progenitor been riveting?
But if Jaffen was patterned after an insect (seen Aliens recently?), then perhaps he is a drone and sexless as others have surmised, but just because he may not have been born with junk, that's hardly any barrier at all to bringing Janeway to climax if he puts his mind to it.
What about the black groom (is that what they are called?)spiders? They can only orgasm as their head is being ripped off and eaten by the female of the species. Maybe that's it? None of them have any fathers because their mothers kill their fathers during coitus? How was he expected to get any sexual release if janeway didn't eat him for dinner?
Then of course there's the sex pits of Denobulous during mating season, where one cannot be entirely sure who's one's father is even before you start adding clues like their perfect sharpshooting skills and fear of touching that I do believe that Denobulans breed during orgies from a distance of several dozen meters and in a cross fire causing collateral inception despite the most best intentions of those locked and loaded out side of the chalked ring outline of the vaginerial strike zone.
Three Men and Baby had nothing on these bastards.
The indication here would be that his species reproduces asexually. Meaning, they don't have male or female parts. Therefore, what you read may, in fact, be accurate.
Ah.... it's been a while, my mistake.
It's okay. That's just the Janeway fanatic in me coming out. On the show, she was engaged to Mark when she left. In season 4 during "Hunters', he sends her a dear john letter.
In Mosaic, she's engaged to another guy, but he and her father die when a test flight goes horribly wrong. (long story)
Well that also was a while back when I saw that episode.... but based on memory, after they spent a time together on the planet alone, there was some hinting between both of them at times, but when they had the conversation and Chakotay told her the story, it seemed more like dealing with the big elephant in the room and getting final answers on both their perspectives.
To me, based on their words and facial expressions/responses, Janeway perhaps had a bit of interest (based on the situation they were thrown in and nobody else to choose from), Chakotay knew where she was going, they confronted the issue on what to do for the future between them, and to me, it seemed as though he decided to let her down nicely and just stay as friends, ie: the story..... which it seemed to take a pile of pressure off both of them.
Why he did that, I have no idea.... maybe he wasn't looking for anything serious and might just be looking for a fling later down the road after a few more months of having only that monkey to go for
I must admit that Jaffen has me stumped - why bring in an alien lover for just one episode for Janeway, then slip that line in putting us all in doubt as to whether he'd be capable?? 
I voted for Chakotay, but I agree with Kim C - it doesn't ahve to be straightaway. Ideally a bit of dating etc first, a build up to a final J/C relationship, bit of suspense!
I voted for Chakotay, but I agree with Kim C - it doesn't ahve to be straightaway. Ideally a bit of dating etc first, a build up to a final J/C relationship, bit of suspense!
she's the captain, she can't fraternize with crew. the other captains didn't do it either, and they were male, after all. still a difference. they can have more of a love life, but get beaten up or tortured all the time, and janeway didn't have much of this dubious pleasure either. where aliens are concerned, she's a transient. you don't want to have her one-night stands, do you?
There toward the end of the series, even I was starting to think she just needed to get laid.
But was that Admiral Janeways problem too?
It wasn't a question of geography or distance from her crew, he just wanted to keep her legs snapped shut.
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I notice this tends to happen a lot to leading women in "geek fiction". They all have to be really "virginal" (so to speak, not that they're actually virgins). Another example is Wonder Woman in comics. Rarely if ever is she ever in any actual relationships.
Whereas the fiction out there that's incredibly popular with women en masse tends to have women in relationships all the time. Many of them. Sometimes short trysts. Just like actual women in the world around us.
Whereas the fiction out there that's incredibly popular with women en masse tends to have women in relationships all the time. Many of them. Sometimes short trysts. Just like actual women in the world around us.
Gods I wish that was so, the bollocks they've been putting us through with her courtship of nemesis for the last four years has been arduous, and before that, they flipped pigments on us, so that now the classic Steve Trevor character was black after an upset in the omniverse... However I loved a (3 year) run on JLA a few years back where they were seriously Ross and Racheling Wonder Woman with Batman which they mirrored a little on the JLU cartoon just a little.
"One: Dating within the team always leads to disaster. Two: You're a princess from a society of immortal warriors. I'm a rich kid with issues... lots of issues. And three: If my enemies knew I had someone special, they wouldn't rest until they'd gotten to me through her. "
I would seriously prefer she hooked up with one of the albino talking ape honour guard which lives with her than a cad everyman shlub like Nemesis... OH, about 10 years ago, Superman had to sit lois down and admit that he had cheated on her with Wonder Woman, but that it was all over now. Lois got pissed and eventually asked how long it had been going on, to which he replied that they were briefly stuck in a pocket dimension for 40 thousand years and one thing just led to another in the first millennia that kinda continued on after that.
Then there's the absolute classic line from Justice League Taskforce where some one asks Wonder Woman how they have sex on an island entirely populated by women to which she replies "There's a reason they call it paradise island" which is about as close as they could get it to implying bisexuality for that character in that decade.
Don't you even try to compare the cobwebs in Janeways fleet issued granny panties to what's going on inside Wonder Woman's star spangled briefs.
"One: Dating within the team always leads to disaster. Two: You're a princess from a society of immortal warriors. I'm a rich kid with issues... lots of issues. And three: If my enemies knew I had someone special, they wouldn't rest until they'd gotten to me through her. "
I would seriously prefer she hooked up with one of the albino talking ape honour guard which lives with her than a cad everyman shlub like Nemesis... OH, about 10 years ago, Superman had to sit lois down and admit that he had cheated on her with Wonder Woman, but that it was all over now. Lois got pissed and eventually asked how long it had been going on, to which he replied that they were briefly stuck in a pocket dimension for 40 thousand years and one thing just led to another in the first millennia that kinda continued on after that.
Then there's the absolute classic line from Justice League Taskforce where some one asks Wonder Woman how they have sex on an island entirely populated by women to which she replies "There's a reason they call it paradise island" which is about as close as they could get it to implying bisexuality for that character in that decade.
Don't you even try to compare the cobwebs in Janeways fleet issued granny panties to what's going on inside Wonder Woman's star spangled briefs.
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