I almost voted for "more lizards", just 'cause the option was there.
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That happened in "Workforce" and "Fairhaven". It may have happened in "Counterpoint", but we don't really know.
^ Well, judging by the number of times Janeway was fixing Seven with a bedroom stare . . . she could have been drinking all that coffee 'cause she never got any sleep when she went to bed.
Did you mean horror? Or perhaps your friendly bear at the zoo is a little too whorish for your taste?
Did you mean horror? Or perhaps your friendly bear at the zoo is a little too whorish for your taste?
Lighten up, please. I was joking about a hypothetical situation with a fictional character by using a play on words.
You, on the other hand, are aiming your remarks at another member of the board.
Kate denies it quite a bit... as in she's been quoted as saying the subtext was not intentional. Though she was aware some fans would have liked to see the pairing, she always considered the two women to have a mother/daughter relationship.
Of course, Kate is notorious for giving off lez vibes. She's been doing it ever since she played Mary Ryan. I think it's just Kate.
Kate denies it quite a bit... as in she's been quoted as saying the subtext was not intentional. Though she was aware some fans would have liked to see the pairing, she always considered the two women to have a mother/daughter relationship.
Of course, Kate is notorious for giving off lez vibes. She's been doing it ever since she played Mary Ryan. I think it's just Kate.
I don't think that we here at Trek BBS are the first to notice the J/7 romantic undertones--there are even J/7 Fan Fiction pages out there.
Kate denies it quite a bit... as in she's been quoted as saying the subtext was not intentional. Though she was aware some fans would have liked to see the pairing, she always considered the two women to have a mother/daughter relationship.
Of course, Kate is notorious for giving off lez vibes. She's been doing it ever since she played Mary Ryan. I think it's just Kate.
I don't think that we here at Trek BBS are the first to notice the J/7 romantic undertones--there are even J/7 Fan Fiction pages out there.
That's not what I said at all. I said Kate denies that it's there intentionally. No where did I say that the Trekbbs came up with the idea.
For the record, I'm one of those people with a site full of J/7 fanfic.
Agree.
There's a great youtube video out there somewhere (tried to find it today without success) where a woman asks Kate if she minds that Captain Janeway is attractive to other women. Kate's husband was on stage at the time and Kate turned the question over to him. IIRC, his response was anyone attractive to both sexes doubles their chances of a date on Saturday night.
Kate, the consumate showman/woman knew her show sells well to many audiences and graciously thanked the lady for her compliment.
Off now to dream visions of J/C, dancing in my head.
Kate denies it quite a bit... as in she's been quoted as saying the subtext was not intentional. Though she was aware some fans would have liked to see the pairing, she always considered the two women to have a mother/daughter relationship.
Of course, Kate is notorious for giving off lez vibes. She's been doing it ever since she played Mary Ryan. I think it's just Kate.
I don't think that we here at Trek BBS are the first to notice the J/7 romantic undertones--there are even J/7 Fan Fiction pages out there.
That's not what I said at all. I said Kate denies that it's there intentionally. No where did I say that the Trekbbs came up with the idea.
For the record, I'm one of those people with a site full of J/7 fanfic.
I think that you completely misunderstood me. I never even thought, let alone said, that you came up with that idea. All that I was saying is that it had been discussed elsewhere. If you took offense, I'm sorry.
No thanks to Janeway/Chakotay. I don't see why she couldn't date someone else on the ship, but the 1st officer works too closely with the Captain. Would have tainted both of their decisions.
I think Chakotay missed a huge opportunity in Shattered to agree with her assumption that they were doing it in the future that they might have had five minutes to spare some where in that adventure to indulge in a spoiler of the spurious.
Did you mean horror? Or perhaps your friendly bear at the zoo is a little too whorish for your taste?
Lighten up, please. I was joking about a hypothetical situation with a fictional character by using a play on words.
You, on the other hand, are aiming your remarks at another member of the board.
Now you are too.
I was expanding on your joke.
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Did you mean horror? Or perhaps your friendly bear at the zoo is a little too whorish for your taste?
Lighten up, please. I was joking....
I was expanding on your joke.
I see that now. I read too fast, and sometimes I'm not the brightest bulb on the Christmas tree. But don't dis da bear--I ain't lion, she turns a lot of heads at the zoo.
I have always felt that Janeway should have had a partner (sexual,) throughout the seven seasons. Personally I don`t believe a woman like Janeway would be single for very long in any situation. (Just look at Mulgrew, is she single?) However this never happened, (holograms?! Oh the horror!)
So do you agree?!
Do you think Janeway should have sexual partner,(s,)?
While I wouldn't have issue if she went into a relationship a while after hearing her husband moved on.... It shouldn't have been with any particular crew member.... but in the end, how things went in the story was fine with me.
With the amount of garbage she put herself through trying to abide by the Prime Directive and Regulations due to being the only real Federation representative in the Delta quadrant, hoping into a relationship with a crew member would have been contradictory to her character.
Besides a possible show of favoritism between that crew member and the rest of the crew and that being a risk too great to take considering the circumstances and needing the crew to work together with as little flack as possible..... her responsibilities were to ensure the safety of her crew and to make sure they got home, which meant she needed to have a clear head and to focus on the task at hand.
Secondly, the whole idea of her going with Chakotay was impossible because back in the episode where her and Chakotay were left on the planet to live for a while, which I believe had to do with some illness they had.... they had the relationship conversation, and at that time, they were considering the reality that they'd have to spend the rest of their lives there..... and he basically told her that he'd rather stay as friends and not get into a relationship.
So if he wasn't going to go for her then, chances are he'd never go for her ever, so Chakotay isn't an option.
Some say she was being a Martyr or something for not choosing a relationship with anybody in the crew and made it sound like a bad thing..... but why should someone be expected to want a relationship in their lives?
Some people choose to go career and not bother with a family life.... it happens today.
To me, I see Janeway's decisions similar to Picard's.... he considered his crew his family and his ship was his life. Now while Picard did try a relationship with Crusher, it seems as though that never really panned out.... and just because Picard "Tried" doesn't mean we should expect Janeway to follow his footsteps in the first place.
Everybody's different and everybody has different priorities.
Agreed.
Also, another good example would be DS9, "Change of Heart" where Dax and Worf were sent on a mission, Dax almost died and Worf didn't complete the mission because he wanted to save his wife, at the cost of damaging his career.
Of course I'd probably do the same thing as he did, but that's the problem with being in a relationship/being married to someone you serve with in such a situation like starfleet..... it can compromise a mission and interfere with an officer's duties.
Loved your post Praxius, and I could hardly disagree with you, however I still feel that Janeway should have partnered with someone, and it could have made interesting storylines in dealing with the complications..... However the writers took the easy way out. Again.
Oh I agree, as said before, I'd have no issue with her being in a relationship, heck Sisko got away with one, even though the Prophets screwed his marriage up royally shortly after getting married..... but with another crew member, that would have been a bit more complicated imo.
Perhaps if they brought aboard another passenger to help them along and Janeway gained an interest in him (suggesting a Him, since she was married previously and hints towards being straight) ~ Heck... Kes was out of the picture after a couple of seasons, Neelix would have been fair game and not exactly part of the Starfleet crew.... but other then that, and as ridiculous as Janeway and Neelix being together, it'd make more sense then any other crew member imo.
Perhaps if they brought aboard another passenger to help them along and Janeway gained an interest in him (suggesting a Him, since she was married previously and hints towards being straight) ~ Heck... Kes was out of the picture after a couple of seasons, Neelix would have been fair game and not exactly part of the Starfleet crew.... but other then that, and as ridiculous as Janeway and Neelix being together, it'd make more sense then any other crew member imo.
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