Is it time to put Star Trek to rest?

[Nyotarules]

It appears that they sort of forgot about it in Picard. WW3 and the "post-atomic horror" seemed to have slipped their minds when they left poor Rios back in the 21st century.

Rios chose to stay for love reasons, and his family started a medical service, Mariposas that lasted until the 24th century. He felt it was worth the risk.

 

[BillJ]

If people liked DSC and PIC, I see it as evidence for the bad taste in the 2010's and 2020's.

Of course, it is something wrong with everyone else. I’m not enamored with CBS Trek, but to try to make it out as a failure is intellectually dishonest.

 

[bdub76]

TNG was different from TOS. But it was of high class and had likeable characters and good stories, something which can't vbe said or written about DSC and PIC.

I enjoyed PIC on initial watch. It was all nostalgia. I recently tried to rewatch season 2, and I didn't care for it. I have also enjoyed most of the PIC novels based on the show as well.

I never made it past the first season of DSC. The main was too perfect. I like my protagonists to have some flaws. I heard it gets kind of a reset in season 3, but I never made it that far. I've been meaning to give it another try.

 

[FredH]

I enjoyed PIC on initial watch. It was all nostalgia. I recently tried to rewatch season 2, and I didn't care for it. I have also enjoyed most of the PIC novels based on the show as well.

I never made it past the first season of DSC. The main was too perfect. I like my protagonists to have some flaws. I heard it gets kind of a reset in season 3, but I never made it that far. I've been meaning to give it another try.

Too perfect? You mean when she mutinies and gets a war started? (Which would have happened anyway, but she doesn’t know that.)

EDIT: To be fair, later on in the series we do start getting the “Sydney Bristow syndrome” where people keep telling her how amazing she is.

 

[1001001]

Too perfect? You mean when she mutinies and gets a war started? (Which would have happened anyway, but she doesn’t know that.)

Michael didn’t start the war.

Georgiou did by not listening to her.

 

[bdub76]

Too perfect? You mean when she mutinies and gets a war started? (Which would have happened anyway, but she doesn’t know that.)

EDIT: To be fair, later on in the series we do start getting the “Sydney Bristow syndrome” where people keep telling her how amazing she is.

My wife's number one complaint about J.J. Abrams is his inability to have fulfilling endings for his series.

For two series with good endings that we enjoyed: 4400 (original) and White Collar.

 

[FredH]

My wife's number one complaint about J.J. Abrams is his inability to have fulfilling endings for his series.

For two series with good endings that we enjoyed: 4400 (original) and White Collar.

Not to get off topic (he said, getting briefly off-topic), but I actually thought the ending of Alias was okay, and Fringe’s actually good. But it’s true that his mystery boxes tend to at least partially disappoint; I’m annoyed to this day that we never met Milo Rambaldi, nor got some sense of how the hell he actually did all that stuff.

 

[bdub76]

Not to get off topic (he said, getting briefly off-topic), but I actually thought the ending of Alias was okay, and Fringe’s actually good. But it’s true that his mystery boxes tend to at least partially disappoint; I’m annoyed to this day that we never met Milo Rambaldi, nor got some sense of how the hell he actually did all that stuff.

I agree with you about Fringe.

 

[Turtletrekker]

Michael didn’t start the war.

Georgiou did by not listening to her.

The Klingons were going to start a war whether the Shenzou had been present at the Binary Stars or not.

 

[The Wormhole]

I never made it past the first season of DSC. The main was too perfect.

I seem to recall many complaining Disco's cast was "unlikeable" back when the first season was originally airing.