How much of the season would have changed in response to that? What parts of the season would you have changed to make Season 5 an epic finale for the show?
If Supernatural Season 5 was the final season...
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I wish we could have had more of an exploration into Sam's character with everything he's going through with Dean and Lucifer.
I would think the writers would be more focused and not been so aimless since certain things would need to be done and only 22 episodes to get everything covered. Maybe having the resolution of the Apocalypse mid season then leaving the other half for aftermath and wrapping it up. Afterall there really was no need for the Apocalypse to be exactly a season long. That is purely a notion from the writers who wanted it to frame the season and be a season long arc. That works if you have enough material to sustain a thread like that(i.e. LOST or season one of Heroes) and in my opinion there was no reason trimming some of the crap we got to pad it out for an artificial construct of 22 episodes would have hurt the storytelling--on the otherhand it would have tightened up a bit ditching "Fallen Idols", "Free to Be You and Me", "Changing Channels", "The Real Ghostbusters", "Swap Meat", "Sam Interrupted", "Hammer of the Gods", "The Devil You Know..." etc.
Deadlines and a checklist of things to be done tend to make people more disciplined and that might have meant less inanity and aimlessness. Instead we will get treated to another uneven season most likely.
Deadlines and a checklist of things to be done tend to make people more disciplined and that might have meant less inanity and aimlessness. Instead we will get treated to another uneven season most likely.
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I wouldn't have the apocalypse be mid season. I actually like how that was laid out. I never thought that soon as Lucifer is free its Hell on Earth. I thought it would be pretty much as it is. In fact besides a few bits of dialogue and maybe a scene here or there I wouldn't change the first four episodes at all.
I would have cut the number of soft episodes, but I would also know that the studio would insist on having some. I would have put "The Devil You know" a story I really liked, a bit earlier in the season. Say around episode 14-15.
Really the biggest complaint abut the show this season hasn't been teh story ideas told (with a few exceptions), but I felt about 8 episodes were too soft for their material. Sam Interrupted is an episode that should have been made, Hammer of the Gods is a story (that first should have been two damn episodes).
But there are very few stories that I wouldn't have wanted to tell (swap Meat is one, Changing Channels is another). But for the most part I liked the basic premise of almost everything done this year. But I would tighten the episodes up (I would lose one the new director who I didn't like), I would cut back about 5% of the general episode humor (THe only humor I love on this show, but in a few episodes it was way to heavy, or out of character for the person using the humor). And of course if I had a larger budget I would have improved some of the casting.
But really I would just made the episodes (typically the stand alone's) a little harder hitting both in how they are shot and in their dialogue.
I would have cut the number of soft episodes, but I would also know that the studio would insist on having some. I would have put "The Devil You know" a story I really liked, a bit earlier in the season. Say around episode 14-15.
Really the biggest complaint abut the show this season hasn't been teh story ideas told (with a few exceptions), but I felt about 8 episodes were too soft for their material. Sam Interrupted is an episode that should have been made, Hammer of the Gods is a story (that first should have been two damn episodes).
But there are very few stories that I wouldn't have wanted to tell (swap Meat is one, Changing Channels is another). But for the most part I liked the basic premise of almost everything done this year. But I would tighten the episodes up (I would lose one the new director who I didn't like), I would cut back about 5% of the general episode humor (THe only humor I love on this show, but in a few episodes it was way to heavy, or out of character for the person using the humor). And of course if I had a larger budget I would have improved some of the casting.
But really I would just made the episodes (typically the stand alone's) a little harder hitting both in how they are shot and in their dialogue.
I would have Bobby fatally shot on top of Ellen and Jo dying in a fiery bang. It would be Bobby's death that would push Sam say yes to Lucifer and become his host mid-season. Then I would have some episodes explore Sam being stuck in his own body in Lucifer's mind but slowly gaining some influence over his body and some of Lucifer's thoughts. Late in the season, the Apocalypse is stopped and the remaining episodes would deal with its aftermath. The demons fight over who will fill Lucifer’s power vacuum while the angels in Heaven fight to maintain their control against the likes of Castiel after their master plan failed. Sam deals with the personal after-effects of Lucifer's possession of him. Maybe the search for God can play a role in the last episodes to give them some direction.
I was under the impression this was done the way Kripke wanted it to, and they're just going to have to find a way to bring Sam and Dean back together to hunt again.
I like how Sam and Dean both turned 180 degrees from the pilot.
Sam was leading the normal life, and Dean was embracing his destiny as a hunter.
In the end Sam had embraced his destiny and Dean gets to live the normal life.
If it ended here, it would be perfect.
So of course a sixth season will mess it all up.
Sam was leading the normal life, and Dean was embracing his destiny as a hunter.
In the end Sam had embraced his destiny and Dean gets to live the normal life.
If it ended here, it would be perfect.
So of course a sixth season will mess it all up.
I'd have had Sam and Dean go out together in a blaze of glory/sacrifice. Some fans say I'm a killjoy, but that's what I would have done.
Season 5 WAS the last season for me. I WILL NOT be watching when the show returns in September. It's DONE for me.
As for the "innanities", personally I really quite enjoyed those episodes. They added MUCH NEEDED comedic relief to a bleak and depressing season of a show that had started taking itself WAY too seriously! Sure there may have been perhaps one too many of the comedy episodes(and they should have been spaced out better)but I would rather a season of them than the bleak emo shit the show devolved into.
As for the "innanities", personally I really quite enjoyed those episodes. They added MUCH NEEDED comedic relief to a bleak and depressing season of a show that had started taking itself WAY too seriously! Sure there may have been perhaps one too many of the comedy episodes(and they should have been spaced out better)but I would rather a season of them than the bleak emo shit the show devolved into.
But slapstick comedy just is so out of place on a serious tv drama which is what I think SN is. Comedy sprinkled into events within an episode that feel natural is one thing but the parodying of the show itself or lightweight comedies I can't stand.
It just so badly undermines the credibility it builds up when it effectively does drama. I know fans just love it but it simply doesn't appeal to my sense of humor--I find a lot of it juvenile, forced and a little too proud of itself--then again I understand that they are gearing them towards a different audience. As far as the emo shit I will say that the writers were getting a little repetitive when it came to exploring the character dynamics between Sam and Dean. Please next season let's get back to the banter and dynamics that were so nice and easy back in season one.
I do agree Season Five should have been the last season but I expected little else from the CW which is so desperate to keep around anything half way decent that they are willing to keep renewing a series until it is nothing more than a rotting corpse--Smallville, One Tree Hill, 7th Heaven.
I'll be watching it when does come back if for no other reason than loyalty but I'd be lying if I said I'm anxiously awaiting its return in September especially after the mess that this last season was--I've been rewatching the episodes hoping they might be better the second time around but they aren't. Who knows season six might end up surprising me and being a great season--I'll reserve judgment until it gets underway.
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