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I officially began my journey through all Star Trek on October 9th...

I forget...have you watched the rebooted Battlestar Galactica from the 2000s? That set out in part to be the show that Voyager wouldn't dare to be...and while it had its own stumbling points, it largely delivered, IMO.
 
I highly recommend it, especially in the aftermath of watching VGR. Longtime Trek writer/producer Ronald D. Moore was the chief creative mind behind it.
 
Year of Hell is a good illustration of what I've wanted out of VOY for the past three years. Gritty, dark and dirty stories with a imperfect cast of characters that are fighting their hardest to survive and get home, Starfleet protocol be damned. Dark and gritty stories don't solve the problems with bad writing, and while Year of Hell isn't a perfect pair of episodes (it's A-plot yet again relies on classic Trek time travel technobabble and that's opening a can of worms, and of course it goes back to the clean and sterile look of the bridge with everyone's hair and uniforms looking perfectly in place in the end), it's nonetheless a standout two-parter for what's so far been a standout season.

The biggest flaw with Year of Hell is it just hammers home to the viewer what the series might have been. What they could have done with the show if only they had stepped away from the traditional Trek mold, just a little bit. I always suspect that Year of Hell had a huge impact on some of the televised SciFi that came after it. Particularly Ron Moore's take on Battlestar Galactica and Stargate Universe. Maybe even just a touch of Farscape. The writers wanted The Year of Hell to be the full season arc. With Voyager being brutalized and deteriorating all season, struggling for repairs, resources, to make alliances, etc, and not hitting the reset switch till the season finale. Much like they later did with Enterprises season 3.
 
Nope, but I plan to watch it whenever I finish all this. I've heard good things about it. Same with Babylon 5.

Yeah after you finish your tour through Star Trek, the three shows, of a somewhat similar vein, that you really must explore are, in order, Babylon 5 (Was produced competing with DS9 and was playing in some similar territories. Incredibly well written, especially season 3 and 4.), Farscape (Just everything you ever wanted in a "ship show". Great cast and chemistry, deliciously dark yet fun story etc.) and nu Battlestar Galactica (pretty much everything Voyager should have been.)
 
Yeah after you finish your tour through Star Trek, the three shows, of a somewhat similar vein, that you really must explore are, in order, Babylon 5 (Was produced competing with DS9 and was playing in some similar territories. Incredibly well written, especially season 3 and 4.), Farscape (Just everything you ever wanted in a "ship show". Great cast and chemistry, deliciously dark yet fun story etc.) and nu Battlestar Galactica (pretty much everything Voyager should have been.)

Good advice!:techman:
 
There's something very messed up about the fact that I've seen more of the holodeck in VOY than I have in DS9.

It was implied that the DS9 holosuites were more often used for purposes not really presentable on public television. :whistle:
 
It was implied that the DS9 holosuites were more often used for purposes not really presentable on public television. :whistle:

I am guessing that when that happens you should be able to prevent people from walking in, uninvited, like Garak did to Julian's spy program.
 
There's something very messed up about the fact that I've seen more of the holodeck in VOY than I have in DS9.

That's not a complement to VOY, BTW.

Remember Rom took a job as the guy mucking out DS9's toilets largely because it was less vile and degrading then being the guy who had to clean the mess out of Quark's holosuites each morning. What happens in Quark's, stays in Quark's!
 
Remember Rom took a job as the guy mucking out DS9's toilets largely because it was less vile and degrading then being the guy who had to clean the mess out of Quark's holosuites each morning. What happens in Quark's, stays in Quark's!

I don't know. I would have guessed the cleaning to be automatic with force fields and all. Since it's a holosuite, you can even use holographic cleaning people even, if you need to anthropomorphize the cleaning.
 
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