I agree, they seemed more developed than some others. Too many times in Trek, it seems cultures were categorized by one thing. Vulcan logic, Klingon honor, Ferengi greed.
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They were fascinating. But they do go a bit off the rails by the end. It's a mostly fun journey getting to that point however.
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There seems to be a common denominator of sadistic cruelty though, granted it's actually two words.
What about Ziyal, Natima, Rugal, Rekelen, Gilora, Ulani, Tekeny, Mila, Daro, and Marritza?
Ziyal was actually a half-breed.
What about fifty years of Cardassian pillaging of the Bajoran resources, not to mention the force labor camps? We certainly wouldn't have these if these people were anything else than the exceptions that prove the rule.
Actually I meant the Bajorans. But the Cardassians were complex also.
Humanity has done worse
To an entire planet!! Refresh my memory. When and where did that happen?
Among the humans good people are definitely NOT an exception. I am actually surrounded with good people, with the deplorable exception of my closest neighbor who's a real jerk, though.
But in the Star Trek world there are dominant traits assigned to species. You can reject that, but it makes it hard to watch the series without a constant feeling of unease if you do so.
Even, among the few that you've listed. I spotted lame ducks that you've put there just to round the number.
Zyial was a half-breed (already said before)
Rugal raised by Bajorans who taught him to hate his own people.
Maritza was guilty of some things, for one thing of being there and never saying or doing anything against it.
To name some of them.
I think it's more a matter of a society that encourages such behavior by setting the example at the top. It doesn't mean that the people living in that society are inherently bad. All obviously modeled on real-world examples.
Yes, the klingons for example were obviously loosely inspired by our Vikings, and their mythology based in large part on our Norse mythology.
How does that equal them being guilty of sadistic cruelty?
You are missing the point. The first two are not really Cardassians raised in Cardassian culture.
And as for Maritza he was at least guilty of laisser-faire
Which is nearly as bad as the real thing. We all know that that's what the Nazis were counting on, people shutting their mouths and doing nothing to impede their plans.
I don't think many here would watch that show.
I don't believe I am. You were the one who brought up sadistic cruelty, so I gave you a list of Cardassians who we know weren't like that. So you are trying to find excuses for why they should not be on the list. I'll willingly strike Ziyal seeing as you have a real bee in your bonnet over her heritage.
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