I cannot stand Scotty/Uhura

[ScatmanRescueMe]

But if on this Trek site and among trek fans who care enough to be here and speak out---nobody likes it----that's good enough for me and others i think.

I mean there may be a few very undiscerning fans who giggled when they first saw it or even a few who still like it ---but who the hell cares?

You could add a shot of Clark Gable slipping on a banana peel as he walks away from Scarlett at the end of Gone With the Wind and some folks would laugh---i might!!

But the shot wouyld suck and everyone would know it sucks and doesn't belong and we don't need to challenge people to produce 'proof' it would suck.

And i think grant and others have shown that his other claim, that the Scott-Uhura scene is below average for the movie is probably right.

It's not 'above average' for the movie and since there are some good parts that add up to decent chunk of the movie it's not 'average' for the movie either.

I just can't stand the concept of not liking the movie overall (which is everyone's right) and making the innane comment, "the whole movie sucked"

I too, find no value in an opinion like that. It means nothing. It says nothing. It informs me of nothing.

The OP indirectly brought up the point, "Why was the movie cut the way it was?" "Why was junk like the Scott-uhura scene left in?"

It does more harm than good, I feel and i bet most fans would agree, but I can't 'prove' it.

When someone adds to this discussion, "well it's about the same as the rest of the movie."
sure that's an opinion but a truly unenlightening one. And probably wrong as well.

Peace.

 

[CoveTom]

Eh. I'll just bow out at this point. I think my original point has gotten lost in the discussion of the scene. My original point was just a comment on the fact that Grant was being real snarky to everyone and insisting that his view was the only one. That's all.

 

[guardian]

It's just as snarky to insist on a 'scientific poll' before you can accept the notion that the vast majority of fans think the scene in question is 'bad'

And he never said that his was the only opinion---he said----that somebody who thinks the scene is 'average for the movie' has bad taste. I agree.

The poster said.........

"I didn't think the other hour and 42 were any better."

Really? So the other 1 hour and 42 minutes were "No better" than the sickbay Scotty-Uhura scene? The whole movie was no better than one of the worst scenes?

That IS either a person who can't find any shade of gray between good & bad or who truly has bad taste. Or who just made an offhand blanket statement that is just weak.

He also said it wasn't a personal attack on the poster, but that it came across as a useless offhand statement.

I'll bow out too. I think we haven't found any real defense of the scene in here anyway besides the couple of the 'it was harmless' type.

So is a booger, but I don't want it hanging from my nose.

 

[Chimpy Chompy]

I'd forgotten that sickbay scene and it does seem to show more overt attraction on Uhura's part. But maybe it's down to Sybok's head-scrambling. In any case i don't particularly hate it. Maybe i just like seeing characters outside the big 3 get a little development.

 

[Jonas Grumby]

I didn't care for the scene, either. It didn't, IMO, play very believably and there was virtually no chemistry between the actors. The whole scene seemed rather contrived. In fact, it fairly stunk of "Jimmy and Nichelle are one scene short of George and Walter. What can we do?"

By far my biggest complaint about TFF is that the "secondary" characters were, for the most part, not used very well.

 

[Grant]

^^
Yes, in Trek 2 they didn't bother to go out of their way to give stuff to Uhura or Sulu. They didn't make a point of 'showcasing' them. In every movie after that they added bits---needed or not to give them something. It worked in Trek 4 & 6, but in 5 it was a waste of time to leave that stuff in just for an obligatory amount of screen time.

 

[Therin of Andor]

Yep...clearly sexual...and more than a bit creepy...

Where do you think Captain Tryla Scott, of TNG's "Conspiracy", came from?

 

[Warped9]

I just don't see why they even went there in FF.

It wasn't interesting. They didn't develop it. It didn't go anywhere in subsequent movies. They didn't even have any great chemistry.

It also appeared out of nowhere.

They were on the same ship since forever. So, why the hell would she find him somehow unattainable until Star Trek V? I mean, were the women all clamouring for him over the years? You'd think it would be the reverse. If anything, she should be the unattainable one.

It just didn't make any sense.

Never cared for this idea myself primarily because there wasn't any basis for it in previous films or episodes.