Bald chicks?
Ilia was Miss India (1965) in real life.
Would she still have won without hair?
Ilia was Miss India (1965) in real life.
Would she still have won without hair?
Harry Kim's promotion... or lack of it.
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Bald is meh to me, either sex. But apparently it is a thing?
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Hahaha!
But seriously....she shows no hesitation. Everything about that scene and her reaction to Harry's non-sexual proposition is that dating is irrelevant and sex is something she had considered, but everyone else on board is too mortally terrified of either her Borgness or her assertiveness to make the attempt. Certainly no one at this point is intimidated by Seven's apparent vulnerability, at least in her perception. She sees an opportunity to get freaky, and goes for it. All power to her.
Harry's inability to take 'advantage' of a mutually beneficial situation because of his fear of something he wasn't prepared for is indicative of why he was never promoted. Again, reference 'Tapestry' - Starfleet officers that don't take chances don't get noticed.
NO. 7 asks him if he wants to copulate in the same manner she would ask if someone needs an aspirin. She has NO IDEA. She is going through the motions of what independent humans do, based on factlets in her head. She has emerged from the cult, having last had free will as a child. A bunch of human stuff is in her head, "what humans do for dummies" and she regurgitates it. Anyone saying yes at this point is stunted themselves.
Jeri swears that Seven was teasing him and the offer was not real.
Once at a (very small) party a friend of mine was being followed and propositioned by a drunk guy. Her plan was to keep giving him coffee until he sobered up and could see reason. "But that could take three hours!" I professed, and countered "Give him three more whiskeys, he'll vomit all over himself, then fall asleep in the garden within less than half an hour."
What might have happened is that she stuck him with her assimilation nodules and programmed that entire experience into his memories so that he would leave her alone if she really was adamant about wanting no part in the Ensigns mating habits, not that there's any proof?
Although his moral failure here, might explain why he went in boots first with Derran in the Disease.
Unless he remains a patsy completely the puppet to any womans vulgar talents at manipulation.
Seven wanted to be left alone and Darren wanted to free her people from discriminating class oppression.
Yup. Kim is just a tool.
Once at a (very small) party a friend of mine was being followed and propositioned by a drunk guy. Her plan was to keep giving him coffee until he sobered up and could see reason. "But that could take three hours!" I professed, and countered "Give him three more whiskeys, he'll vomit all over himself, then fall asleep in the garden within less than half an hour."
What might have happened is that she stuck him with her assimilation nodules and programmed that entire experience into his memories so that he would leave her alone if she really was adamant about wanting no part in the Ensigns mating habits, not that there's any proof?
Although his moral failure here, might explain why he went in boots first with Derran in the Disease.
Unless he remains a patsy completely the puppet to any womans vulgar talents at manipulation.
Seven wanted to be left alone and Darren wanted to free her people from discriminating class oppression.
Yup. Kim is just a tool.
Teasing or serious, Seven is capable of making this decision by any socially or legally acceptable standard. Supported even more if she is ****ing with Harry with the intention of scaring him off. She's even more with it than Harry if Ryan's assertion about the scene is any indicator.
If anyone is a potenial 'victim' in this scene, it's young Ensign Kim.
If anyone is a potenial 'victim' in this scene, it's young Ensign Kim.
You take someone who was abducted as a child, terrorized, orphaned, had her entire self subsumed by a groupthink and then was popped out against her will from that groupthink a couple decades later. And this person is not compromised in making decisions?
It's Star Trek so at LEAST give it a season.
People just say 7 was perfectly adult five minute after she was freed because they want to fuck her. People are shitheads.
It's Star Trek so at LEAST give it a season.
People just say 7 was perfectly adult five minute after she was freed because they want to fuck her. People are shitheads.
Poor Kim. Boo hoo.
Lets assume that any connection to the Borg Hive mind transforms any "incomplete person" into an adult no matter how little life experience they had before the collective... By that reasoning the Borg gave Anika 1 second of therapy for every one second of slavery... Actually, considering futuristic computer speeds, she probably got a thousand years of therapy for every second of slavery.
I'm assuming that Hugh had no known life before the Borg, considering how little he freaked out when the connection was severed, and he might have been one of those babies, or in a situation like one of those babies Riker found on the Cube that was trying to assimilate Sector 001 in The Best of Both Worlds. So despite Hughe's last experience as an individual being "goo-goo-ga-ga" this exdrone could walk, talk and reason with his captors like a pro.
Of course if this was true, does that mean that the Borg kids were lying? Were the Borg kids really full (mentally/emotionally) grown adults who were lying about their abilities, so that they could sit back and enjoy middle school while other bugger worked for a living?
Would Harry run as quickly if Mesoti demanded sex from him in 2375 if she claimed to be an adult despite that her body hadn't caught up with her brain?
Which is what happened to the O'Briens in TNG Rascals.
As weird as that would have been for Miles, from Kieko's perspective, she could now tell people that she lost her virginity to her husband and side step the horrors of admitting how much she experimented at college to her children when they asked her about sex.
Lets assume that any connection to the Borg Hive mind transforms any "incomplete person" into an adult no matter how little life experience they had before the collective... By that reasoning the Borg gave Anika 1 second of therapy for every one second of slavery... Actually, considering futuristic computer speeds, she probably got a thousand years of therapy for every second of slavery.
I'm assuming that Hugh had no known life before the Borg, considering how little he freaked out when the connection was severed, and he might have been one of those babies, or in a situation like one of those babies Riker found on the Cube that was trying to assimilate Sector 001 in The Best of Both Worlds. So despite Hughe's last experience as an individual being "goo-goo-ga-ga" this exdrone could walk, talk and reason with his captors like a pro.
Of course if this was true, does that mean that the Borg kids were lying? Were the Borg kids really full (mentally/emotionally) grown adults who were lying about their abilities, so that they could sit back and enjoy middle school while other bugger worked for a living?
Would Harry run as quickly if Mesoti demanded sex from him in 2375 if she claimed to be an adult despite that her body hadn't caught up with her brain?
Which is what happened to the O'Briens in TNG Rascals.
As weird as that would have been for Miles, from Kieko's perspective, she could now tell people that she lost her virginity to her husband and side step the horrors of admitting how much she experimented at college to her children when they asked her about sex.
I'm curious what you think the message was?
Because for a while there, I thought it was "Real Men should only be attracted to weak women who let them make all their decisions."
I think Jeri Ryan is beyond sexy but I personally wouldn't have taken advantage of Seven. Mature or not, and even though she has an encyclopedic knowledge of many experiences, she's still new to the world. She hasn't eaten (or pooped) since she was a kid amongst other sensations. I too think she deserves some time to get acclimated on her own.
Plus, I never had a thing for cyborgs. Who knows if her insides are pointy.
The human brain actually doesn't fully develop until the mid-twenties. A Borg kid released from the Borg would still be an adolescent, just an adolescent with a lot of information. I don't think they should go to school though, it would be pointless.
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Icheb was taking Academy classes.
The rest of the Borg kids were misplaced.
A maturation chamber speeds up ageing.
("Mature" dumbass, no of course you knew that, I'm talking to the other guy.)
But not as speedily as you'd think if Icheb is anything to go by.
If Seven is the desirable age/size for a Drone, then she was maturated to that size/age as quickly as possibly before being released from her maturation chamber to be a productive member of the collective. Janeway said to Icheb's family (when they were trying to give him back) that they must have had trouble recognizing him since he had grown several inches in height since they last saw him, and he'd spent at least a year maturating.
So we are maybe looking at a ratio of 1:4 at worst?
That will mean that Seven was stuck in a maturation chamber as a 6 year old and not let out until she looked 24, which would have taken 4 and 1/2 years. Seven of Nine has had the super sexy body of a 24 year old (I believe that Borg do not age unless they want to.) since she was almost 11, so that means that because of maturation, her biological age when Voyager found her was 39, not 24.
Well 21 year old Jennifer lien was playing a 1 year old, and 42 year old Robert Picardo was playing a new born, so it's par for the course in Voyagerland...
Janeway was born in 2344... What the fuck?????
She's got progeria or something? It's not an impressive trick, okay I admit I can't do it, but it's not hard for a woman to look more attractive and healthier than almost anyoneelse ten times their senior, which is the bench mark most of you have been measuring this child against.
Kathryn Janeway was 27 in Caretaker!
I am in hog heaven.
If she was blasted with a version of that shit that aged Chekov in TOS The Deadly years, that might explain how the tight little smoking Ensign Janeway from TNG Man of the People transformed so quickly into a bitter old lady Captain in just 2 years BECAUSE THEY ARE THE SAME PERSON!
They gave JANEWAY a ship and a rank bump to apologize for somehow accidentally unfairly stealing 15 years off her life expectancy.
Everything makes so much more sense now!
The rest of the Borg kids were misplaced.
A maturation chamber speeds up ageing.
("Mature" dumbass, no of course you knew that, I'm talking to the other guy.)
But not as speedily as you'd think if Icheb is anything to go by.
If Seven is the desirable age/size for a Drone, then she was maturated to that size/age as quickly as possibly before being released from her maturation chamber to be a productive member of the collective. Janeway said to Icheb's family (when they were trying to give him back) that they must have had trouble recognizing him since he had grown several inches in height since they last saw him, and he'd spent at least a year maturating.
So we are maybe looking at a ratio of 1:4 at worst?
That will mean that Seven was stuck in a maturation chamber as a 6 year old and not let out until she looked 24, which would have taken 4 and 1/2 years. Seven of Nine has had the super sexy body of a 24 year old (I believe that Borg do not age unless they want to.) since she was almost 11, so that means that because of maturation, her biological age when Voyager found her was 39, not 24.
24? 29 year old Jeri was playing a 24 year old Borg?
Well 21 year old Jennifer lien was playing a 1 year old, and 42 year old Robert Picardo was playing a new born, so it's par for the course in Voyagerland...
Janeway was born in 2344... What the fuck?????
Regardless, I was trying to prove that Janeway was younger than Seven of Nine, but if she was really 27 in Caretaker, can all you fanatics finally stop waxing on about how she looks good for her age if there's a baby brain inside that hot middle aged woman?
She's got progeria or something? It's not an impressive trick, okay I admit I can't do it, but it's not hard for a woman to look more attractive and healthier than almost anyoneelse ten times their senior, which is the bench mark most of you have been measuring this child against.
Kathryn Janeway was 27 in Caretaker!
I am in hog heaven.
If she was blasted with a version of that shit that aged Chekov in TOS The Deadly years, that might explain how the tight little smoking Ensign Janeway from TNG Man of the People transformed so quickly into a bitter old lady Captain in just 2 years BECAUSE THEY ARE THE SAME PERSON!
They gave JANEWAY a ship and a rank bump to apologize for somehow accidentally unfairly stealing 15 years off her life expectancy.
Everything makes so much more sense now!
I hear Wang himself was angry at the script.
From the looks of it it was more like sucking him dry and it was three pretty girls.
Unless you're thinking of 8472, but we don't know if it was a girl, in fact the Doc said that they had five sexes, so the notion of male/female may have no meaning to them.
If you suck on something hard enough, sooner or later, most of it is coming out'a your poop shoot.
And end up in the Beta Quadrant.
And end up in the Beta Quadrant.
Where he gets killed every week, but somehow always winds up resurrecting. And he keeps the rank of Lieutenant for the next seven years.
Hey, that could be a new concept: "The thousand deaths of Lt Kim"...And end up in the Beta Quadrant.
Where he gets killed every week, but somehow always winds up resurrecting. And he keeps the rank of Lieutenant for the next seven years.
