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Harry Kim's promotion... or lack of it.

Federation President.

The Earthlings may be hosting the federation seat, but they still need their own government and their own representation.

Federation Councillors sitting on the Council report back to the home world, and they're always bitchy about it.

Do you think any other alien world would give away their own government to answer unwavering to the Alien concerns of the Federation?
 
That's off?

In Enterprise they almost establish that the United Earth is ruled by a Parliament.

Wasn't Jaresh Inyo the President of Earth? All they needed to decree martial law was his signature on a PADD. That seems pretty powerful to me.


Just because what scant evidence there is indicates that United Earth operates a Parliamentery style Government that doesn't preclude their being an Earth President who is head of State whilst the PM is Head of Government
 
President of Earth was a purely fictional Captain Proton character?

There is no other mention of an Earth President in Star Trek that a few minutes of google could uncover, but yes you can overcomplicate things by making their guiding political structure just like France (and a couple other places.)

In the back end of Enterprise, we meet Minister Samuels who seems to have a lot of Political power until Archer starts swinging his dick around. I assumed that Samuels was a (singular) Minister of Parliament, but argumentative pricks who like to fight me, have claimed that "Minister" was a religious rank and had nothing to do with the government, meanwhile there's a novel that claims that "Minister Samuels" is an abbreviation of Prime Minister Samuels which calls into light about how fricking weak Samuels was in Demons in he ran the planet an could demote Archer to Ensign verbally without cause.

Oh.

T'LES: Their accusations were fabricated. I was told that if I left the Academy they would end the inquiry.
T'POL: Why would the Ministry do this? Because of me. They blamed me for the incident at P'Jem.
T'LES: After the monastery was destroyed, the First Minister was dismissed. You've made many enemies here.
T'POL: They couldn't reach me on Enterprise, so they punished you. It's criminal. How could you let them do this?
The leader of Vulcan is called the First Minister.

If the Earthers were going to copy anyone while establishing there new United Earth World Government, it would have been the Vulcans, who had been playing mentor for the last century trying to make mankind presentable to space at large.

This is what we know.

CRUSHER: By all indications, the Kes are a very unified, very progressive people.
PICARD: But the Prytt are not. They are reclusive to the point of xenophobia.
CRUSHER: Well, think about Earth. What if one of the old nation states, say Australia, had decided not to join the World Government in twenty one fifty? Would that have disqualified us as a Federation member?
PICARD: That analogy is not exactly
(Some ####ing morons do not know what an analogy is. Not "you" obviously. But some fucking morons don't. Australia signed up fine just like everyone else and they still would have been cleaning up the confetti when Archers Enterprise left for Q'noS in 2151. Or course that's not saying that it wasn't an adventure trying to find someone in Australia sober enough to sign the paperwork, because it had to have been.)

Another thing we know is that France was conquered by England at some point, otherwise Picard would have had a French accent. So why the hell base the World Government on a suburb of Great Briton? Saying "that" makes me wonder if dominated Nationstates that thought that they may one day down the line after the boot gets off their throat, might deserve to be their own country, were now fixed in stone as the country they signed on as on the UE Council, where they were to be represented forever after by some bastards that won a war 40 years earlier by sheer luck. They would get to a point surely where France would insist that it wanted it's own seat on the World Government Council... A Novel "claimed" that Mars is not part of the United Earth. Mars has it's on seat on the Federation Council. France could accede from Earth and Join the Federation?

Is all of Paris the Federation Council and support, or all of France?

Washington DC is land that was donated from several neighbouring states to make an impartial nonstate where the US Government could rule over the rest of the country sans favouritism. Originally noncivil servants were not even supposed to live there, it was entirely about the business of Government, but then the Pentagon was also originally an insane asylum... Built in a city that was completely staffed by civil servants?

Did Earth donate/lease/lend Paris to the Federation to use as a hub/base/centre, or did they give the federation all of France or maybe even the entire Earth to the Federation to rule over the rest of the Federation from? The Philosophy of Self Improvement which underpins all human movements collectively and individually, that encourages sacrifice, might be understood to mean that giving away their home in exchange for nothing is inside the tenants of that belief.
 
^I like how you explain things but it's not hard to believe Picard's mother is English and her, Picard's father, and him spent his earlier years in England before returning to the vineyards in France.
 
Mother wanted a replicator and Dad was a real dick about it.

PICARD: Leave it to Robert to find the best cook in France, then marry her.
ROBERT: Yes, but sadly cooking is becoming a lost art. That's your wretched technology again.
MARIE: Robert and I have had more than a few discussions about getting a replicator in the house.
PICARD: I remember the same discussions between mother and father.
ROBERT: Father understood better than anybody else the danger of losing those values which we hold most precious.
PICARD: I don't see that you have to lose anything just by adding a convenience.

I'm imaging that if a replicator senses "fire" that it would start vomiting retardant.

Not that that is really a problem the remaining Picards have to be so concerned about anymore.
 
Mother wanted a replicator and Dad was a real dick about it.

PICARD: Leave it to Robert to find the best cook in France, then marry her.
ROBERT: Yes, but sadly cooking is becoming a lost art. That's your wretched technology again.
MARIE: Robert and I have had more than a few discussions about getting a replicator in the house.
PICARD: I remember the same discussions between mother and father.
ROBERT: Father understood better than anybody else the danger of losing those values which we hold most precious.
PICARD: I don't see that you have to lose anything just by adding a convenience.
I'm imaging that if a replicator senses "fire" that it would start vomiting retardant.

Not that that is really a problem the remaining Picards have to be so concerned about anymore.

Oh an, I hated that scene. If dear Robert doesn't want a "wretched" replicator then he should be the one doing the cooking...
 
^I didn't notice. Was the wife cooking while the husband bad-talked replicators? That's totally worth throwing the apron down on the table.

ROBERT: Father understood better than anybody else the danger of losing those values which we hold most precious.

It'll be funny if Robert found out his great great great ... great grandfather was a slave owner.

ROBERT: Never mind honey, get the replicator.
 
How do you know he didn't?

I figured out that in a world with no money and no property that paces like Chataeu Picard and Sisko's, that these establishments must be (protected) Global Heritage sites or maybe even "museums" which are put into the custodies of family lines only so long as they looked after properly.

With no Picards to maintain Chateau Picard, is the United Earth going to bring new vintners, or paveover the whole thing and make a carpark? What's the point of family vineyard without a family? Without Picards, Chateau Picard has very little value as a historical landmark.

Robert could have worked the chateau all day, then cooked dinner for the wife and kid.

Humans don't cook from scratch.

It would be weirdly specific if he'd found a missus who raised the same as he was and knew how to cook without a replicator.

Robert on the other hand grew up with out one and it would be weird if he didn't know how to cook.

Marie is half his age, and Robert is one of the 9 humans on Earth that do not live in a tiny closet, who would still date a "commoner".

It's possible that Robert needed a child to pass the Vinyard on to, so had to find a woman that would put up with him.

Nothing wrong with arranged marraiges as long as no one has a gun to htheir head.

Marie's job is to make new Picards until Robert dies and then she can marry someone half her age.

Although, I'm curious why Jean-Luc didn't do the same thing considering how busy he is?
 
^I like how you explain things but it's not hard to believe Picard's mother is English and her, Picard's father, and him spent his earlier years in England before returning to the vineyards in France.
It's hard to believe an English Picard would call his English mother "maman", his accent notwithstanding.
 
Europe is already smooshing together, IMO it's pretty reasonable to think they (you) would basically be like today's US in 2360ish. If any Europeans take that as an insult, you should - get your stuff together so it doesn't happen!
 
Europe sorta has a single currency and a mass transit rail system that barely needs passports.

I think they know about their smooshiness.
 
The only thing we can say for certain is that the office of the Federation President was located in Paris. As for where the United Earth Government sits, we don't know.
 
SAMUELS: Having endured a catastrophic World War, Earth's governments came to this city for the purpose of creating a just and lasting peace among nations. Today, we have assembled here again, representatives of numerous worlds, to forge an unprecedented alliance. With this Coalition of Planets, we seek to strengthen our bonds of friendship, render permanent the peace that now exists among us for the ongoing exploration of our galaxy. Let us dedicate ourselves to these worthy goals so that future generations can look back upon this moment with pride and eternal gratitude. Thank you.
(Applause, although Tucker is less than enthusiastic.)
No. I don't think Samuels is talking about the creation of the UE, even if that had been the authors intention.

Probably just the Armistice concluding WWIII in the mid 2050s.

The UE had only been around for 6 years, not a hundred and 6 years.

Of course some have argued that the UE started smaller and took years or decades to induct every nation into it's roster (Similar to how the United Nations had bugger all countries in it when it started.). It might not have been such a spur of the moment thing at all that was worked out over a long weekend.

...

The patches on their arms in every episode.

United Earth Space Probe Agency.

The UE is real.
 
Europe is already smooshing together, IMO it's pretty reasonable to think they (you) would basically be like today's US in 2360ish. If any Europeans take that as an insult, you should - get your stuff together so it doesn't happen!

Who says Europeans take that as an insult?
 
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Harry's CO obviously screwed him over.

Of course Data would advance faster than Harry.

^I like how you explain things but it's not hard to believe Picard's mother is English and her, Picard's father, and him spent his earlier years in England before returning to the vineyards in France.
It's hard to believe an English Picard would call his English mother "maman", his accent notwithstanding.

His mother is in to French stuff (hence marrying a French guy).
 
SAMUELS: Having endured a catastrophic World War, Earth's governments came to this city for the purpose of creating a just and lasting peace among nations. Today, we have assembled here again, representatives of numerous worlds, to forge an unprecedented alliance. With this Coalition of Planets, we seek to strengthen our bonds of friendship, render permanent the peace that now exists among us for the ongoing exploration of our galaxy. Let us dedicate ourselves to these worthy goals so that future generations can look back upon this moment with pride and eternal gratitude. Thank you.
(Applause, although Tucker is less than enthusiastic.)
No. I don't think Samuels is talking about the creation of the UE, even if that had been the authors intention.

Probably just the Armistice concluding WWIII in the mid 2050s.

The UE had only been around for 6 years, not a hundred and 6 years.

Of course some have argued that the UE started smaller and took years or decades to induct every nation into it's roster (Similar to how the United Nations had bugger all countries in it when it started.). It might not have been such a spur of the moment thing at all that was worked out over a long weekend.

...

The patches on their arms in every episode.

United Earth Space Probe Agency.

The UE is real.

Or he was talking about following WWII, Nations meet in San Francisco to sign the UN charter.
 
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