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Harry Kim's promotion... or lack of it.

A great 20th century philosopher once said "I yam what I yam" which just about covers all my thoughts on the subject completely, and yet I continue...

He was a font of good "philopsikies", that one. :D

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"I never use me fisks on wimmin on accounts of I yam a gen'leman."


I guess the one thing that the DS9 Mirror Universe does show us is that not everything is exactly replicated over there: Mirror Tuvok hangs with Mirror Sisko, not Mirror Janeway.
 
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So yeah, in Star Trek, I BELIEVE (which is not necessarily the truth) that temporal duplicates are real persons who are all still the originals of themselves, who are not copies or dupicates. No one was duplicated, they all got pulled out of their mothers or what ever happens when real men are off playing golf, and lived an exemplary life of an individual no matter how many times that life has been closely mirrored across an infinite amount of Universes.

Star Trek isn't that consistent with time travel but in the instance where Seven was recruited by the temporal agents, the Seven that we saw that died became an alternate future when the agents went back and grabbed an earlier Seven, that later didn't die. I think Star Trek considers time travel mutable.
 
I can easily imagine Harry arriving back home after "Endgame", and being rewarded with lieutenant junior grade pins. Outraged by this slight instead of the full lieutenant he thinks he deserves, he curses all the assembled bigwigs, then gets demoted to crewman. Libby winds up marrying Daniel Byrd.

Lieutenant Commander Tom Paris comes to visit him every other month at the New Zealand Rehabilitation Facility, if he has the time.
 
^I think I heard somewhere that about every seven years the body is replaced by the food one consumes.

Was Seven integrated with all the Seven of Nine corpses that failed her mission before she showed up?

Possibly, but that still leaves a tangent Seven that lived.
 
I can easily imagine Harry arriving back home after "Endgame", and being rewarded with lieutenant junior grade pins. Outraged by this slight instead of the full lieutenant he thinks he deserves, he curses all the assembled bigwigs, then gets demoted to crewman. Libby winds up marrying Daniel Byrd.

Lieutenant Commander Tom Paris comes to visit him every other month at the New Zealand Rehabilitation Facility, if he has the time.
Why would Libby wait for him?
 
Why would Libby wait for him?
Ask the writers who spent months writing novels where she waited for him. For me, it was just an afterthought after 2 seconds as a way to use Daniel Byrd's name, since he had taken Harry's place on Voyager in "Non Sequitur". I've already spent more time thinking about it for this reply than I did in the earlier post, and it was just part of a joke. It was the last thing I thought of for that post.
 
Why would Libby wait for him?
Ask the writers who spent months writing novels where she waited for him. For me, it was just an afterthought after 2 seconds as a way to use Daniel Byrd's name, since he had taken Harry's place on Voyager in "Non Sequitur". I've already spent more time thinking about it for this reply than I did in the earlier post, and it was just part of a joke. It was the last thing I thought of for that post.

Seven years seems like an awfully long time to wait for someone that may not be back for a couple of decades still, if ever, considering that without old Janeway's intervention that's how long it would have taken.
 
Why would Libby wait for him?
Ask the writers who spent months writing novels where she waited for him. For me, it was just an afterthought after 2 seconds as a way to use Daniel Byrd's name, since he had taken Harry's place on Voyager in "Non Sequitur". I've already spent more time thinking about it for this reply than I did in the earlier post, and it was just part of a joke. It was the last thing I thought of for that post.

Seven years seems like an awfully long time to wait for someone that may not be back for a couple of decades still, if ever, considering that without old Janeway's intervention that's how long it would have taken.

Starfleet learned that the ship was in the Delta Quadrant during Season 4's "Message in a Bottle". So word got to families then. Harry never got a Dear John letter like Janeway did, so Libby must not have found anyone better than Harry.
 
It's also possible Libby just didn't feel like telling him. As someone who had had a fair share of summer flings, sometimes you just don't tell the ex that there's someone new, because you don't intend to try to continue the relationship regardless. I've been on both sides of this.
 
Ask the writers who spent months writing novels where she waited for him. For me, it was just an afterthought after 2 seconds as a way to use Daniel Byrd's name, since he had taken Harry's place on Voyager in "Non Sequitur". I've already spent more time thinking about it for this reply than I did in the earlier post, and it was just part of a joke. It was the last thing I thought of for that post.

Seven years seems like an awfully long time to wait for someone that may not be back for a couple of decades still, if ever, considering that without old Janeway's intervention that's how long it would have taken.

Starfleet learned that the ship was in the Delta Quadrant during Season 4's "Message in a Bottle". So word got to families then. Harry never got a Dear John letter like Janeway did, so Libby must not have found anyone better than Harry.
That or she was hesitant to hurt his feelings. After all he never says anything about getting other kinds of letters from her.
 
It's also possible Libby just didn't feel like telling him. As someone who had had a fair share of summer flings, sometimes you just don't tell the ex that there's someone new, because you don't intend to try to continue the relationship regardless. I've been on both sides of this.

GMTA.:lol: (we posted simultaneously)
 
Well it all depends if I'm still connected to me.

The older me could have been trapped in that situation already with the older me when he was the younger me.

Happens all the time.

[yt]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UTO0ogdNMdY[/yt]

(17 minutes, but hilarious.)
Cheers, Guy. Those sort of time travel stories always tickle me and this one made excellent use of limited film making resources as well.

BTW, the Earth moves much faster than that. He should have been hundreds of miles away, if not in outer space or somewhere inside the Earth itself. If we are to follow the logic of this little opus.

Just as an example: The Earth orbits the Sun at about twenty miles a second, if you go back in time say one minute you should land about 1200 miles from your point of origin.

Fair enough, but since its just a narrative excuse for the protagonist to end up X number of meters away (and the overall story is strong) I'm prepared to ignore that little scientific faux pas ;)
 
Well it all depends if I'm still connected to me.

The older me could have been trapped in that situation already with the older me when he was the younger me.

Happens all the time.

[yt]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UTO0ogdNMdY[/yt]

(17 minutes, but hilarious.)
Cheers, Guy. Those sort of time travel stories always tickle me and this one made excellent use of limited film making resources as well.

BTW, the Earth moves much faster than that. He should have been hundreds of miles away, if not in outer space or somewhere inside the Earth itself. If we are to follow the logic of this little opus.

Just as an example: The Earth orbits the Sun at about twenty miles a second, if you go back in time say one minute you should land about 1200 miles from your point of origin.

Fair enough, but since its just a narrative excuse for the protagonist to end up X number of meters away (and the overall story is strong) I'm prepared to ignore that little scientific faux pas ;)

Oh I agree that it's quite funny and very well played. The guy has talent, actually, they both do.
 
Turn of the century action adventure time travel series Seven Days used a time machine that did not want to stay rooted to the planet as it backstepped. There was a joystick keeping a needle between some crosshairs while the time travelling it self was burning 5 layers of skin off and boiling his internal organs... And if the needle couldn't keep centre, the time sphere would arrive way off target or even in orbit.

Seven Days was a dumb show, but still quite fun.

Libby was a Voyager Widow.

I know it sounds disgusting but crying women hare hotter than not crying women.

Just a fact.

Seedy Men after a quick thrill would forever be trying to tap that because she is a weeping, bawling quasicelebrity.

It's a numbers game, if a hundred guys take a run at her every month, at least one has to make a crack in Libby's veneer, unless she is dead inside. Although I've already articulated that it's her inner deadness that is the most attractive thing about her.

Yes, Mark is also a Voyager Widow.

Women find crying men weak, it makes them try to find the bloke something to really cry about, so Mark got his endless strange cashing in on Kathryn's death by being one genital away from a mass grave in space.

But then he ###ed up and married one of these psychos.

Psycho chicks are the best?
 
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