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Grade: Roger Moore's James Bond movies

Live and Let Die- A-
The Man With the Golden Gun- C+
The Spy Who Loved Me- B
Moonraker- D
For Your Eyes Only- A+
Octopussy- B-
A View to a Kill- I don't remember it well enough to vote.
 
Here's my list:

1. Moonraker: Moore's best. Yes, Jaws is stupid, and annoying and should have stayed dead in The Spy Who Loved Me, but, they went into space. Any movie that goes into space is worth checking out at least once.

2. The Man With the Golden Gun
Octopussy: Both had Maud Adams. Enough said.

3. The Spy Who Loved Me: Great movie, despite Jaws.

4. For You Eyes Only
A View to a Kill: Both enjoyable adventure films, not great, but good.

5. Live and Let Die: Absolute shit from top to bottom whose sole redeeming quality was the casting of a young Jane Seymour. Vodoo stories are not even remotely fun.
 
In order of preference:

The Spy Who Loved Me
For Your Eyes Only
Octopussy
Live And Let Die
Moonraker
The Man With The Golden Gun
A View To A Kill
 
Live And Let Die: B- ... it at least had the virtue of being different from the others, tho it has (arguably) the silliest villain death in movie history

The Man With The Golden Gun: A- ... this was, for quite a while, my favorite Bond movie, tho it loses a lot of luster as the years go by

The Spy Who Loved Me: B- ... OK, but just doesn't do much for me... it is my wife's favorite

Moonraker: C ... OK, this is also different than the others, but not in a good way. Did ANYONE think Jaws needed a love interest?

For Your Eyes Only: C ... says a lot that I can't remember much besides the theme song

Octopussy: C+ ... OK, all in all - still hard to imagine that they let them put a movie out with that title in the 80s

A View To Kill: B+ ... the first Bond movie I saw in the theater, and the last I saw in the theater until Casino Royale came out a couple years ago - probably rated higher than it deserves for nostalgia as a result
 
In order:
1. The Spy Who Loved Me
1. Moonraker (really can't choose between these two)
3. The Man with the Golden Gun
4. Octopussy
5. Live and Let Die
6. For Your Eyes Only
7. A View to a Kill
 
I might watch The Spy Who Loved Me, Moonraker, or The Man with the Golden Gun if I happen to find them on television, but no promises once they go to commercial. And by no means am I lauding those films with praise (although The Spy Who Loved Me is the closest one to a good movie of the bunch).

For Your Eyes Only is supposed to be the grittiest film in the series, but I found it to be dull if not outright silly (especially the teaser, with the pseudo-Blofield's all to easy demise). Octopussy and A View to a Kill are downright insulting. So is Moonraker, but it at least has a commanding villain and is fun on a visceral level. Live and Let Die was...well, better than Diamonds are Forever. Again, not praise.

I can't believe Roger Moore has had the longest run as James Bond out of all the actors in the role (unless you count Never Say Never Again, but why would you want to consider that film in any capacity?). A dark time for the character, although, to be fair, one that began in the final days of Connery's tenure (and, I would argue, Lazenby's interim misfire).

Thankfully Timothy Dalton, Pierce Brosnan (let's ignore Die Another Day), and Daniel Craig came afterwards to wash the bitter taste out of our mouths.
 
Thankfully Timothy Dalton, Pierce Brosnan (let's ignore Die Another Day), and Daniel Craig came afterwards to wash the bitter taste out of our mouths.

For me, it's less about the actor playing Bond, than it is the writing of the movies. Although, I must admit, I have yet to warm up to Daniel Craig. Maybe next time.
 
For Your Eyes Only is supposed to be the grittiest film in the series, but I found it to be dull if not outright silly (especially the teaser, with the pseudo-Blofield's all to easy demise).

I think that's a lot of it for me. The teaser just doesn't work, which really sours the tone for the rest of the film. Also, I hate the theme song.
 
Thankfully Timothy Dalton, Pierce Brosnan (let's ignore Die Another Day), and Daniel Craig came afterwards to wash the bitter taste out of our mouths.

For me, it's less about the actor playing Bond, than it is the writing of the movies. Although, I must admit, I have yet to warm up to Daniel Craig. Maybe next time.

I think Daniel Craig is doing a good job of doing what they're asking him to do. I just think the tone for his James Bond movies is all wrong. I prefer my James Bond movies to be more fun. Casino Royale had its moments and even flashes of brilliance but it grinds to a halt every time they go back to the poker room. Quantum of Solace is depressing shit. I don't want to go into a James Bond movie only for it to remind me every few minutes of how terrible a place the world is today.

You're certainly right that it's more often writing than acting. Another example: Sean Connery. I think he's brilliant in the role but all of his movies are so damn dull! From Russia with Love is OK and Goldfinger has a few iconic scenes and an admittedly genius villain plan. But other than that, I can't stand Connery's films.

And so long as we're bringing up Die Another Day, I think the 1st half of that movie is brilliant-- the hovercraft chase, the opening credits where the North Koreans torture Bond, exposing the honey trap in the Chinese hotel, the swordfight. It's only when they get to the ice hotel that things start to fall apart, what with the invisible car, all the lasers, & the cyber-backpack.

The Man With the Golden Gun - Did we need to see that silly sherrif again?

Yes. He must be in all of Richard Lester's movies. See also: Superman II.

Actually, Guy Hamilton directed TMWTGG (and LALD, I think). Lester hasn't directed any Bond movies, as far as I know. But Tom Mankiewicz wrote or co-wrote all three movies - perhaps that's who you're thinking of. Yes, the inclusion of an identical sheriff in Superman II was definitely not required either!

But to be fair to him, without Mankiewicz, we would have gotten the silly script in the vein of the 1960s Batman which Mario Puzo turned in for Superman The Movie.

And Mankiewicz didn't write the Richard Lester portions of Superman II, which the redneck sheriff scenes are part of.
 
First off, Roger Moore is my favorite of the Bond actors.

Live And Let Die - A Minus
My dad loved the boat chase in this movie, and I got so fed up as a kid, but rewatchin' it on DVD, I really enjoyed the movie overall.

The Man With The Golden Gun - B Plus
Christopher Lee was a good villian, but that was all this one has goin' for it, really.

The Spy Who Loved Me - A
The second best of Moore's movies, easily.

Moonraker - C
I used to love this as a kid, but rewatchin' it on DVD, I couldn't stand it anymore.

For Your Eyes Only - A Plus
The best of Moore's Bond films, despite the absence of Q.

Octopussy - F
Was there really a dire need to bring back the Louisianna sheriff from Live and Let Die?

A View To Kill - B Minus
I'd say this one is saved by the villians more than anything else. Moore looked tired, and I'm glad this was the last one he did.
 
First off, Roger Moore is my favorite of the Bond actors.

For Your Eyes Only - A Plus
The best of Moore's Bond films, despite the absence of Q.

Octopussy - F
Was there really a dire need to bring back the Louisianna sheriff from Live and Let Die?

Two minor nitpicks: Q was absent from Live and Let Die (another reason I dislike it), not For Your Eyes Only. That was M who was missing.

Sheriff Pepper returned in The Man With The Golden Gun, not Octopussy. But both of those had Maud Adams in them, so your mistake is understandable.
 
Live and Let Die: B+
The Man with The Golden Gun: B+
The Spy Who Loved Me: A
Moonraker: B
For Your Eyes Only: A+
Octopussy: A
A View To A Kill: C+
 
Actually, check the IMDB entry re the writing of the movie. Mankiewicz has an uncredited involvement. Just the same as he did with the first one. I find it hard to believe that the use of such a similar character could be down to anyone other than him.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0081573/fullcredits#writers
Mankiewicz has uncredited involvement because he was one of the writers on the version of the screenplay they were using for the Donner-filmed material that ended up in Lester's cut of Superman II. The crap with Clifton James was added when the Salkinds fired Donner, replaced him with Lester, and rewrote and reshot most of the movie.
 
Live and Let Die - C
The Man with the Golden Gun - D
The Spy Who Loved Me - A
Moonraker - B
For Your Eyes Only - A
Octopussy - C
A View to a Kill - F
 
First off, Roger Moore is my favorite of the Bond actors.

For Your Eyes Only - A Plus
The best of Moore's Bond films, despite the absence of Q.

Octopussy - F
Was there really a dire need to bring back the Louisianna sheriff from Live and Let Die?

Two minor nitpicks: Q was absent from Live and Let Die (another reason I dislike it), not For Your Eyes Only. That was M who was missing.

Sheriff Pepper returned in The Man With The Golden Gun, not Octopussy. But both of those had Maud Adams in them, so your mistake is understandable.

My bad - thanks for the corrections.
 
Which movie was it where RM is supposed to fight all these Karate Guys, and when one of them bows he kicks him in the face? That always cracked me up.
 
Moore might be my second least favorite Bond, but I still rewatch most of his movies.

Live And Let Die - The so-called "blaxploitation" era led to some cool movies. That Moore's Bond is more stuffily British than Connery's only makes the contrast between him and the 70's era black villains even more amusing. Great speed boat chase. Jane Seymour is sooo good looking. Only Bond film with supernatural elements, IIRC. B+

The Man With The Golden Gun - Christopher Lee! Whoop. But the overall plot is forgettable until Bond gets Scaramanga's island. B

The Spy Who Loved Me - Some great action scenes. Though the non-action scenes are largely forgettable. Bond's Lotus was the shit. B+

Moonraker - This one...until Bond gets into space, is even more forgettable aside from a henchman returning from a prior film for mostly slapstick reasons. It's basically a redo of the previous film...not very creative. C

For Your Eyes Only - Return to more rational spy movies, for better or worse. Far less spectacular, but more character driven. Carole Bouquet is hawt (so I like brunettes with long straight hair!). The villain isn't memorable though, and that's the weakest thing about it. B-

Octopussy - Have I ever watched it all the way through? I'm not sure. I've seen it all here and there. Some decent ideas in the plot, but it gets lost in some island of women silliness. Moore is looking old here, and there's no great megalomanic villain or sci-fi scheme to distract from that. One of the weakest Bond movies of them all. I find the title song to be one of the worst, too. D

A View To Kill - Thankfully Grace Jones and Christopher Walken add ham and cheese to distract from what amounts to Goldfinger updated for the 80's. San Francisco is a boring locale to use for most of a Bond film, to me, anyway. C-
 
Off the top of my head I look at it like this

Live and Let Die- a fine debut but too dated and blaxplotation today
The Man with the Golden Gun- subpar, only good for the villain. Christopher Lee!
The Spy Who Loved Me- one of the best Bond pictures
Moonraker- The Worst Bond picture
For Your Eyes Only- one of the best Bond pictures

Now, if Moore would have stopped there, his tenure would be just dandy! Imagine a united front for Dalton in a fixed Octopussy and youth driven View to a Kill! But alas, no.

Octopussy- subpar again
A View to A Kill- subpar, but a great guilty pleasure villian. Moore's just too old here.

Here's my lengthier analysis

http://ithinkthereforeireview.blogspot.com/search/label/James Bond
 
Which movie was it where RM is supposed to fight all these Karate Guys, and when one of them bows he kicks him in the face? That always cracked me up.
Sadly, the scene ends with Roger running away, and letting Lt. Hip and a pair of Asian schoolgirls do his dirty work. So much for Bond being a badass.
 
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