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Spoilers Game of Thrones - Season 7

Sam Tarly: Lord Paramount of the Reach?

Drogon knows.

Littlefinger is littlefingering himself right onto Arya's list.

Gilly upon meeting Lady Stark: "Is that the lady that got married to that reggae prince?"

Next week: The Fellowship of the Zombie, the team-up we didn't know we wanted :D
 
The preview for next week looks like a typical penultimate GoT season ender........lots going on. Time is marching quickly now, almost to the point of seeming rushed after how long journeys took in previous seasons...........

EDIT: Not that I am complaining...........they have lots of ground to cover. Just seems like they have a transporter this season.

Who doesn't love a flaming sword?!
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Some of the time jumps are the writers taking short corners for sure though I do feel some are just time jumps built into the episode but we are more used to seeing that occurs over different episodes and not in one singular episode. This season has been great but I still think they could of done a full 10 for season 7 and then have a shorter 8th season still.
 
So did we just find out that Jaime killed Cersi already, and it's just going to take longer than we thought? I want to put money down that she dies delivering a (stillborn) dwarf child! Prophesy said she'd live to bury 3 children, so she's either dead before this one is born, or it never lives (or I guess she dies before the child, best case?) There's just more irony with her dying delivering what she hates, and also same as her mother...
 
Is there a point to Gendry. There never managed to be in the books but we've gone well past that and.. is there a point to Gendry?
Only that he's Robert Baratheon's only living son. In an age where House after House have become legally extinct:
Bolton
Frey
Tyrell
Martell
Baratheon

And the future of certain Houses are uncertain:
Lannister - All of Cersei and Jaime's children are dead.
Greyjoy - Theon is a eunch.
Tully - Edmure is MIA.
Clegane - Neither Sandor or Gregor have kids.

Having someone like Gendry, who possesses the blood and strength of his father, Robert. Who in his day was a fierce and powerful warrior. Could mean there's hope to rebuild Westeros for the future.

However, I think more Houses will join the extinction list before the end comes. I imagine Westeros may become a democracy, instead of a monarchy and aristocracy by show's end.
 
Is there a point to Gendry. There never managed to be in the books but we've gone well past that and.. is there a point to Gendry?
- Redshirt for the Fellowship of the (Night)King
- Substitute son for Ser Davos
- Bastard-bro for Jon Snow until Jon finds out the truth about his parentage
- One component of the A-Team (Team Arya) next season seeking revenge against Cersei
- Potential troublemaker along with Ser Davos when Melisandre returns next season
- Christian Bale's stunt double in case he ever decides to appear on the show
- When everyone else is dead, bastards are legitimized and he becomes the rightful ruler of the Seven Kingdoms
- Stop! Hammer time
 
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To be fair, the current leader of the Greyjoy clan is doing just fine, and even then, Theon's sister hasn't been executed yet as far as I can remember, so Theon being a eunuch doesn't really play yet. Edmure is probably fine, the show just dropped him because he doesn't really MATTER to what's going on at this point, and only 8 more episodes to wrap up a TON of storylines.

Dunno if taking the Black is permanent (Jon Snow is sorta proving it's not), but Sam just got promoted to Head of Household this week too, so he's looking up. Not sure about the rules regarding Head of House, but while the current Lannisters aren't looking so hot, there's plenty of minor Lannisters that could probably try and claim it as a cousin or something, so they're not gone.

Not sure how diluted it can get before the house is considered dead, though. Gendry could certainly make an attempt at rebooting the Baratheon house, though, if he makes it through the upcoming hostilities.

Plus side, House Targaryen is making a comeback :)

But yeah, definitely setting up for a major change of the deck chair this go around. And that's if anyone has enough resources to survive the winter after they quit squabbling (and defeat an army of the undead)
 
Didn't Walder Frey say that he had locked Edmure back up in his dungeon at the Twins again after Jaime used him to get the Blackfish out of Riverrun? I imagine Walder's daughter that was married to him eventually let him out once all the Frey men were killed off by Arya. Hell, Edmure might have a legit claim to the Twins at this point.
 
Sounds about right, and then the series lost interest in him. He really just doesn't matter to what's left to tell. Your version is as likely as anything else, and he could easily hold what's left of the river country at this point
 
Fine episode. It definitely was more of a set up episode than a plot moving one but, thanks to last week's episode, they are still at a good pace. I was confused about how Dany didn't mention to Jon that her dragon has never done that (at least Drogon, with Tyrion unchaining the other two). I half expected Dany to ask who his mother was and pose a Targaryen tie in. Glad to see Gendry alive and well, but his addition did seem forced. Why would Davos invite him to join during war? He might not have been truly safe in King's Landing, but by his side is far worse. I also like seeing the wonder team leave north beyond the wall. I'd watch a whole season of them surviving up there. I can't wait to see what happens next.
 
Sam, you fool, the annulment! I sure hope Gilly packed that book for some light reading on the road.
It wound up in the kid's lap, so very likely, although I'm hoping he doesn't drool all over the spot where it talks about the simultaneous annulment and remarriage.

Another great episode, even if the timescale continues to be compressed. I don't mind the speed of ravens, but damn Davos went from Dragonstone to King's Landing and back to Dragonstone (close to each other, fine) and then all the way to Eastwatch (not even remotely) in a single episode. Plus, Jorah sure got up to Dragonstone fast. I swear, if Sam gets to the Wall by the end of the next episode by wagon... :p
Yeah, I'm kind of torn over this "speed of plot" business. It's really starting to push the boundaries of credibility to the point of making it difficult to suspend disbelief. I'm normally the kind of person who overlooks such things and concentrates on the actual story of what's going on, but even this episode was jarring to me. Interesting how Euron's magic ships now are nowhere to be seen, when they were traveling thousands of miles around the southern parts of Westeros and back again within the same episode. Maybe the Unsullied actually have him mired down at Casterly Rock? The Iron Born were always sailors first. Not quite the soldiers that they like to think they are, certainly not as well-trained and motivated as the Unsullied. I suspect any engagement between the two on land would be quite one-sided, honestly.

Jon sure is putting his duty as "Protector of the Realm" in high regard because he didn't even consider going back to Winterfell to see Arya and Bran. And he was quick to belief Bran's current abilities without a second thought (likewise everyone else in that meeting). The far traveling and quick acceptances of strange things are probably going to play out better in the books, but it sure is rough here in the show.
When one has fought directly against various elements of the Army of the Dead multiple times, large and small, witnessed the Knight King in person and crossed swords with one of his generals, and seen giants, all of which were supposed to be the stuff of legend for millennia, I suspect that one would be more predisposed to being open-minded about such things in the future. It might be the difference between life and un-death. :)

I'm glad Tyrion had his reunion with Jaime, although just not in the way I expected. I find it rather hard to believe Jaime and Bronn were able to swim so far away underwater with that armor and undetected, moments after Jaime tried to kill Daenerys. It was also a little odd that Tyrion didn't even acknowledge that moment. I'm a little sad that Tyrion didn't really have a reunion with Bronn, but I guess there wasn't enough time.
This, along with the rapid character movements around the map are direct victims of the shorter final two seasons, unfortunately. Whoever is responsible for this, either HBO, the show runners or both, I feel have done the series and the audience a great disservice to the series to sacrifice solid little character moments like that - moments that used to be woven into the show's fabric that gave it an extra strata of believability that, sadly, no longer really exists. I do prefer getting more into the meat of the plot rather than viewing the meandering travelogues that permeated the episodes a few seasons back (parallel to the books that were similarly meandering), but I really feel like the pendulum has swung too far in the other direction in favor of "wrapping things up".

Not surprised Cersei knew that Bronn was contacted by Tyrion and set up the meeting, but I was surprised she allowed it to happen. I guess she's learning how to control her rage and focus on the bigger picture of maintaining her power in the long run, even if she is a fool about mercenaries over her own loyal army. But at the same time, she has grown even colder as seen with her threat against Jaime about betrayal. I wonder if her pregnancy is real or just a scheme on her brother lover. I also wonder if this cold threat will finally push Jaime to come to his senses about her.
Remember that, in the original books, her greatest obsession (aside from the prophesy) was trying to prove to her dead father's spirit how much like him she had become, if not better. She fancied herself a master chess (cyvasse?) player which got her into trouble with the Sparrows and Faith Militant. She learned from that mistake and became arguably as ruthless, cunning and brutal as Tywin, if not more so. You can almost see the fear on Jaime's face sometimes when he hears some of the things coming out of her mouth, but almost every episode that has focused on her this season (and last), there's always some off-hand, yet significant, reference from her about "what Father would have done", or "Father would be proud", etc. Now that all her children are (currently) all dead, that and the prophesy are her two primary driving motivations.

And, as for the prophesy, she thinks it's been taken care of with the complete destruction of the Tyrell family and Margery. Now I'm wondering if the other "prettier Queen" was Dany all along.

I figured Littlefinger was manipulating Arya from the get go. I worry that Arya is going to do something foolish and hurts not only Sansa's position at Winterfell, but also her relationship with her sister. The sooner she realizes she's being fooled by that silver tongue and finally puts an end to his machinations, the better. Bran, step up already!
I have faith in Arya's abilities. She's not the little girl in the beginning. She will outsmart him at some point. What he's doing now is out of pure fear of her skills. When people do things out of fear, they make mistakes. His time will come.

The mighty band of Jon, Jorah, Tormund, Thoros, Gendry (complete with War hammer!), Beric, adn the Hound (we're never going to get Clegane Bowl at this rate) is going on a daring trip. I will be shocked if any less than two of them die (and for good in Beric's case). Jorah's wishful glance at Daenerys before leaving feels rather telling in particular.
That definitely had the feel of "Dirty Dozen", "Ice Station Zebra", "Magnificent Seven" and all those other similar kinds of ensemble war movies of the 60's, setting out against the unknown (or semi-known). Well done episode overall! :)
 
Glad to see Gendry alive and well, but his addition did seem forced. Why would Davos invite him to join during war?

They do need blacksmiths to make a bunch of dragonglass weapons...

He might not have been truly safe in King's Landing, but by his side is far worse.

Depends, if Tyrion failed to convince Jamie, Daenerys would have no choice but to eventually attack King's Landing.
 
Next week: The Fellowship of the Zombie

We've already seen one, but I look forward to the plethora of crossover posters. :D

It was only a matter of time: :D
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Damn.. the Westeros version of a Special Forces Unit

They're dropping hints about Jon's heritage like candy now.. first Drogon not mistaking him for a juicy Chicken Wing and swallowing him whole, then Gilly's reading session and we already got the fade over last season with baby Jon and adult Jon. Now i wonder who will be able to drop the knowledge bomb and if it's actually Dany who'll bend the knee :lol:

Speaking of Dany.. damn, that was ice cold. She apparently has never heard about the concept of Prisoners of War (but then again there's no Geneva in Westeros so it may be an alien concept) but how will she break the wheel when she behaves exactly like any ruler, maybe even worse, by stating "My way or it's Dragon Breath!" This will spread and make her enemy fight all the harder because they know they will die no matter what they do (unless bending the knee).

Most awww moment goes to Jorah and Dany.. that was so noce to see this other side of Dany. She can be an icecold bitch when whe has to (or her anger gets the better of her) but to her friends she warms up like no one else. He's still deep in the friendzone but it seems he made peace with it and she needs all the friendly faces she can get.

So now i wonder if they will actually get a White Walker or just a Wight.. first one is the ultimate prize but nearly impossible to do but i guess presenting an actual Undead should be enough to convince everybody, i just hope we will get that grand meeting this season.. Dany and Cersei facing off! :techman:
 
What if they show Cersei one of the undead and she's like "Eh, been there, done that.", we still don't know exactly what is going on with the Mountain...

He's just undead-ish. ;)

But yeah, that can't be the whole plan though, right?

I get the bit about needing to get a zombie to show everyone down south that the threat is real, but delivering one to Cersei? They've gotta know she will backstab them even if they do somehow manage to convince her with one zombie.

Sam pointed out the Maesters could convince everybody the threat is real if they wanted to, they're respected and networked in every major castle, so why didn't anyone think of convincing them?

They're not that stupid, they've gotta have a backup plan, right? Right?
 
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