Fandom never changes…

[FredH]

They’ve ruined the franchise!

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[Set Harth]

"the filmmakers took themselves too seriously"

This is true! I remember thinking as I left the theater, where were the penis jokes and synchronized dance numbers? What a disaster!

And that's before we even get to the cross-cutting between events happening simultaneously on different planets. Like BRO DO YOU EVEN SCIENCE. THAT IS JUST NOT COOL YOU GUYS, COME ON YOU GUYS. WOW JUST WOW.

 

[The Wormhole]

Any franchise's worst enemies are its own fans.

 

[Mudd]

The only other use I can find of the term "peeled zero" - beyond Google AI making shit up - is in a poem by Don Blanding, who died in 1957:

You know what you reminds me of?

In arthmetic they’s got a little figure they calls a Zeero.

A zeero is Nothing with a line around it.

Nothing with a line around it. That’s your present frame

of mind.

And you know what’s happened to you?

You was up on the corner Zeeroing at the top of your voice.

You was zeeroing at all the pretty girls passing by, and

I don’t blame your for that.

But that Ol’ Devil comes up behind you and sees this bunch

of nothing with a line around it called a Zeero.

And just like slipping the skin off of a grape, he skins

that line from around that Zeero.

And what’s left?



…..A PEELED ZERO’ Yessir, a PEELED ZERO.

Just a big bunch of bare nothing without even its underwear on.

And there ain’t nothing in the world so cold and dismal and

lonesome as a peeled Zeero. Nothing around it.

Nothing in front of it.

Nothing behind it.

I think I'll put this one in my pocket for later...

 

[publiusr]

Rotate that zero and you get one of Zwicky’s spherical bastards

 

[JD]

It's weird seeing that now, when The Empire Strikes back tends to be considered one of the best movies in the series. I would love to know if the people who put that together have seen any of the movies after TESB and what they thought of them if they did.

 

[Turtletrekker]

I love that old newsletter. I put it right up there with the article from Best of Trek magazine stating that Star Trek fans would never accept the new Klingons in Star Trek The Motion Picture.

 

[The Wormhole]

I love that old newsletter. I put it right up there with the article from Best of Trek magazine stating that Star Trek fans would never accept the new Klingons in Star Trek The Motion Picture.

Now there's a literal example of fandom never changing.

 

[137th Gebirg]

Jaysus wept... Why are SF/F fandoms such whinging drama queens?

 

[FredH]

Jaysus wept... Why are SF/F fandoms such whinging drama queens?

I sometimes wonder if it’s because for most of us, fandom first hit us when we were something like 13 and thought this stuff really mattered. (Yes, at some level science fiction does matter, but you know what I mean.). And though we grow older after that, to a certain degree we’ve imprinted.

 

[137th Gebirg]

I sometimes wonder if it’s because for most of us, fandom first hit us when we were something like 13 and thought this stuff really mattered. (Yes, at some level science fiction does matter, but you know what I mean.)

Oh, I definitely know what you mean, and that is perfectly understandable to expect those feelings and attitudes in anyone so young. It all started at age 4 for me and TAS.

However, when one reaches a certain age, 20's, 30's, 40's or whatever, I don't think it would be unreasonable to expect some developed level of maturity later in life. A kind of tempered maturity that doesn't lend oneself to completely lose one's shit over such things, as I have seen countless times here and on other forums by fervent members of various fandoms. It's always okay to still enjoy such things into adulthood but, goodness, does everything need to be reduced to a screed of flouncing every time a franchise does something that someone doesn't like?

Life's really too short...

 

[FredH]

Oh, I definitely know what you mean, and that is perfectly understandable to expect those feelings and attitudes in anyone so young. It all started at age 4 for me and TAS.

However, when one reaches a certain age, 20's, 30's, 40's or whatever, I don't think it would be unreasonable to expect some developed level of maturity later in life. A kind of tempered maturity that doesn't lend oneself to completely lose one's shit over such things, as I have seen countless times here and on other forums by fervent members of various fandoms. It's always okay to still enjoy such things into adulthood but, goodness, does everything need to be reduced to a screed of flouncing every time a franchise does something that someone doesn't like?

Life's really too short...

Absolutely. Maybe another awkward thing to admit is that for — many or a lot of us, certainly not all or most — as life goes on and things fall away or disappoint, for a certain percentage of us it sort of becomes the thing to (irrationally) hold onto. “My brilliant career may have fizzled away or never taken off, but dammit, Star Trek (or whatever) is mine!” Or something like that. No, I’m definitely not projecting at all…

 

[137th Gebirg]

Yep I think you're right on the mark with that one. Life's full of disappointments. LOTS of disappointments. It seems that, for some folks, SF/F is more than just an escape, but a way of life if all else fails. Unhealthy, IMO, but it is what it is, I guess.