ENT Reference in Star Trek XI? - SPOILERS

[Dick Whitman]

Its ironic that that ENT fans are now complaining that the new incarnation of the franchise is making incorrect references to it!!

I am a big ENT fan by the way! But this is the type of nitpicking that did about ENT all the time.

 

[pookha]

How long had Scotty been on Delta Vega? He could have been there a while, close to decade. Yeah, Jonathan Archer would STILL be very old. But people are assuming Scotty was just sent there. Even if previously Jonathan Archer went on to be a Federation President or an Ambassador he would have gone back to using his Starfleet rank while teaching at the Academy.

I like the reference. Even if you figure its a child or grandchild of Jonathan's its still an Enterprise reference. They did not have to do one at all.

it is still a reference even if it is a grandchild ect of archer.
if it is a descendant it dosnt make the reference wrong.
i really do like it without it being jonathan archer.
the only reason i dont think it isnt archer is the archer was supposed to be an instructor in quantum mechanics or something like that.

i suspect the novelization will have more.

and that there may be more then one delta vega..
no big deal..
has happened before.

i actually like delta vega summer and delta vega winter to keep them apart.

 

[euphorik]

there is also spock's reference to the katric ark

Where?

shortly before spock beams down to vulcan, he says something to the effect of the katric ark being the repository of vulcan identity & culture, and that his parents are there...went kinda fast, but he definitely says "katric ark" - !!

 

[commodore64]

Its ironic that that ENT fans are now complaining that the new incarnation of the franchise is making incorrect references to it!!

Yuppers. I think it's appropriate for them to mention the captain of the Enterprise and think it was him rather than a relative or something else.

Besides, I figure if McCoy can live to a ripe old age, why not Archer?

 

[Michael]

shortly before spock beams down to vulcan, he says something to the effect of the katric ark being the repository of vulcan identity & culture, and that his parents are there...went kinda fast, but he definitely says "katric ark" - !!

You are right, he does say Katric ark!

 

[Dick Whitman]

Whether intentional or not the production designs in the film are very consistent with Enterprise. For example the Engine Room on this ship looks like a natural progression from of the NX -01.

 

[DarthPipes]

Its ironic that that ENT fans are now complaining that the new incarnation of the franchise is making incorrect references to it!!

Yuppers. I think it's appropriate for them to mention the captain of the Enterprise and think it was him rather than a relative or something else.

Besides, I figure if McCoy can live to a ripe old age, why not Archer?

Agreed. The line "Admiral Archer's prized beagle" leaves no doubt that is was Jonathan Archer of Enterprise.

 

[pookha]

uh not if you look at scotty's dossier..

Former Academy aide for Admiral Archer’s “Advanced Relativistic Mechanics” course

why would jonathan archer be teaching advanced relativistic mechanics..
sounds like a descendant to me.

dossiers

i knew i had read it some place...

 

[Dick Whitman]

Because he's secretly a Quantum Physicist!

 

[J Archer]

Because he's secretly a Quantum Physicist!

And the audience groaned

 

[CommanderRaytas]

Nurse Chapel gets mentioned in the film.

Where's that?

When Bones brings Kirk to the medical bay, I think. But he does mention her, I'm absolutely sure.

And oh, Spock says that the High Council members will be at the katric arc, and that's why the Enterprise couldn't beam them out.

 

[cooleddie74]

It was nice to hear about Admiral Archer's beagle even though it's fate was not the best!

I have been told he's mentioned again in the novelized version at least, which I'm getting on Tuesday. Actually, I know what it says, but don't want to spoil it. If anyone can tell me how to use spoiler tags, I'll post it.

Come to think of it...I guess this might decanonize the Archer computer bio on the TOS Defiant now, since he was supposed to have died in 2245 when the original Enterprise was launched.

 

[Dick Whitman]

Another reference is using the term "Klingon Warbirds". Which was never used before Broken Bow. ENT was criticized heavily for that.

 

[Anwar]

Just because it was never used before, doesn't mean it doesn't exist. I mean, did they ever say "There's no such thing as a Klingon Warbird" before ENT?

 

[pookha]

Because he's secretly a Quantum Physicist!

And the audience groaned

 

[commodore64]

Nurse Chapel gets mentioned in the film.

Where's that?

When Bones brings Kirk to the medical bay, I think. But he does mention her, I'm absolutely sure.

Thanks, I missed that one.

Come to think of it...I guess this might decanonize the Archer computer bio on the TOS Defiant now, since he was supposed to have died in 2245 when the original Enterprise was launched.

Maybe he goes on a secret mission at a ripe, old age or pulls a Zephram Cochrane and disappears.

 

[foxmulder710]

Star Trek XI ENT ref: a jab? (beware spoilers!)

I'm not clear on just how the new film jives with ENT. I mean, the "Admiral Archer's beagle" comment was surely meant to suggest that the new film acknowledges the existence of ENT, but it does so in a rather playful and making-fun sort of way.

Doesn't Scotty beaming (and thus, killing) Porthos (or his later-Archer-equivalent) seem to be kind of a mean thing for the writers to have done?

I took the comment as a kind of jab at ENT in general.

I liked a lot of ENT, don't get me wrong, but there were serious problems, and I think the new movie's quick comment was a subtle way of acknowledging those problems at the same time.

 

[JiNX-01]

Re: Star Trek XI ENT ref: a jab? (beware spoilers!)

I'm not clear on just how the new film jives with ENT. I mean, the "Admiral Archer's beagle" comment was surely meant to suggest that the new film acknowledges the existence of ENT, but it does so in a rather playful and making-fun sort of way.

Doesn't Scotty beaming (and thus, killing) Porthos (or his later-Archer-equivalent) seem to be kind of a mean thing for the writers to have done?

I took the comment as a kind of jab at ENT in general.

I liked a lot of ENT, don't get me wrong, but there were serious problems, and I think the new movie's quick comment was a subtle way of acknowledging those problems at the same time.

First of all, it couldn't possibly have been Porthos unless Scotty has also been hopping around through time... And just because he "misplaced" Archer's beagle, doesn't mean it's dead. It could very well be living with a bunch of Tribbles hiding out on a Klingon garbage scow.

 

[Michael]

Re: Star Trek XI ENT ref: a jab? (beware spoilers!)

Not a jab at all. Rather a cute little homage. I think Enterprise fans should be happy about that. I know I am.

 

[apenpaap]

Re: Star Trek XI ENT ref: a jab? (beware spoilers!)

I would have preferred seeing the launching ceremony of the USS Enterprise, with a very old Archer attending, but I'll settle for this line as a homage.