On newer Blu-Ray releases and for all 4K UHD Blu-Ray releases, you still need an Internet connection to decrypt the key and authorize playback. Not all that different.
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DS9 on blu ray?
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On newer Blu-Ray releases and for all 4K UHD Blu-Ray releases, you still need an Internet connection to decrypt the key and authorize playback. Not all that different.
That is probably true. And the remaster could work along the ways of TNG-R but what about the heavy CGI episodes? I just re-watched the Valiant from Season 6 and the CGI holds up pretty bad even in SD. And I don't know if they will invest enough money to redo or just upscale. There was an article that most of the original CGI animations are kept but is it possible to re-render them on higher resolution? We will have to wait and see I suppose, I would welcome the remaster of the "normal footage" too, but I would love to see the CGI updated too.
Who says CBS wants new fans of those shows (at the added cost of converting them)?
Isn't CBS making a new show with (presumably) modern storytelling techniques to entice new fans? Something that can be made in the proper format right from the start and, by virtue of being modern, already giving it a longer shelf-life to the new generation of viewers who probably don't care about much before they were born (generally)?
The Star Trek fan base is a strong and large one. First of all there are many viewer that are re-watching the old series, and also if they will bring new fans over those will become curious about what have come before and they are commercial target as well. DS9 and VOY remastered will be more valuable to sell as remastered projects than as they are now. The only thing they must consider if does it worth it financially to do what they did to TOS and TNG or they should search for a cheaper way. Also the waiting could mean that they are waiting for the technology to become cheaper so that remastering the last two Star Trek series would be worth it from a financial point of view. I begin to see the remastered TOS and TNG popping up all over TV stations in Europe in HD, so they are begin to see now what are the long term prospects on such a project, something they did not see from the blu-ray sales and the first airing in USA TV. Let's hope the numbers are right and the technology is cheap enough so that we see does project come to life sooner than later
You also have to remember that with TOS-R Blu-Ray was the last medium it was released on. During the 2006-2008 timeframe, when it was being released on TV, it was being sent to stations as a 480i satellite transmission or on SD videotape. So even back then, everyone was seeing TOS-R in standard definition, and even when it got a DVD release, CBS went with the HD-DVD/DVD option rather than the just-HD route, or seperate DVD & Blu Ray options. But even after HD-DVD was cancelled, CBS went to DVD only first.
I am no expert on UHD, but no Blu-Ray discs I know of require an internet connection to enable playback. You might have to install a firmware update to get some newer discs to work, but even that does not require the player to have a direct internet connection.
I was just looking at a couple of old articles on trekmovie.com, one of which mentioned that CBS was testing converting TNG to HD as early as the summer of 2007, right in the midst of the TOS-R project. Of course from what the article said, it sounds like CBS was testing all methods of just upressing the old 1-inch and D2 videotapes, or even doing a Babylon 5 job, but as we can see looking back, CBS scrapped the idea of just pushing out upressed composite video tape.
It's also interesting that trekmovie reported that on November 29, 2006 both "Miri" and "The Naked Now" were available on XBOX LIVE, in 720p in their hybrid versions, just mere weeks after debuting in 480i on regular broadcast TV.
I just want this guy to redo all the effects.
Me too
It's an impressive accomplishment, although the Defiant models seems... inaccurate somehow.
I'd guess that the CGI would need to be redone from scratch in order to do the job right. If they do the complete HD remaster, it only makes sense to do it that way.
Probably, but TNG didn't sell enough to make that remaster worth it. DS9 would sell substantially less.
It's more accurate than the actual CG Defiant that they used in a bunch of DS9 shots.
DS9 only starts to heavily use CGI in the fifth and sixth seasons really. It's mostly models until then, although there are CGI effects used throughout, such as the wormhole and Odo's morphs.
But I actually don't think it's the effects that are the problem, it's the cost of physically sifting through hundreds of boxes of film, scanning it all in HD, and then reassembling each and every episode.
TNG apparently didn't make money, so it's hard to see why CBS would do it again. This is the insurmountable problem, they aren't going to make a loss on something that doesn't translate to sales.
The money will not come from blu-ray sets. The money will come from the distribution rights from the different markets: TV stations, digital distribution etc. Even though later TNG sales were lower in the first week, CBS should have an idea how much money is making in the long term now after a few years. But fact is that the UHD world is just around the corner and if they will not update the series their revenue will be 0 as more and more TV stations and TV's with digital services will be 4K or even maybe 8K a few years down the road, the SD quality will present practically 0 interest and they will have 0 revenue from DS9 and VOY in a few years. 0. And that should make them think. It should be still cheaper to update DS9 and VOY than to produce a new series.
No.
I have a 50" 4K TV and have no issue in watching DS9 or Voyager on it via Netflix or DVD. There are many, many, many shows still running in SD and that will continue into the future.
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