Spoilers Did Picard finally ''right the ship'' with Picard season 3?

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  1. Serveaux

    Serveaux Fleet Admiral Premium Member

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    It means that TOS was made in the 1960s and SNW is being made now. That's all.

    Same with the SNW ship design.
     
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    The ship was always modular. Pike's compliment is smaller meaning more space can be used in quarters. Swap out modules to accommodate doubling the crew.

    It adds up as well as TMP.

    And what about the angle of the bridge?
     
  3. Serveaux

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    Have they said in SNW that the crew complement of the Enterprise is still 203? I understand that it was mentioned in STD, but there's no necessary reason that should still be so.
     
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    I thought so but I could be misremembering.
     
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    Having recently finished rewatching SNW on blu-ray, I don't believe the crew complement is mentioned at all in the first season.
     
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    Thanks.
     
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    I was perfectly fine with no explanation because I knew that there was no possible way to explain the makeup change without looking incredibly foolish.

    And there still isn't because that episode still doesn't explain how three Klingon characters from Kirk's era changed so rapidly in just 30 years.


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    DS9 Blood Oath rendered any attempt to rationally explain the change moot. Not to mention we've had two more design changes since that Ent episode with the Kelvin Timeline and Discovery.
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    I'd argue some of the DSC Season 2 designs could constitute another change.
     
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    That Kelvin Klingon is *chef's kiss* très magnifique. Perfection.
     
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    the idea that Klingons all look the same because of one or two TV episodes is like assuming all earthlings must look like Queen Elizabeth or a polar bear because someone found a Canadian toonie.
     
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    Speak for yourself...


    ...I'm only polar bear on my father's side.
     
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    All hail King Polar Bear!
     
  13. The Wormhole

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    Coincidentally, in the novel I am currently writing titled "The Polar Bear and the Queen"...
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    I liked the STD Klingon design fine when I saw it in still images prior to the show's release, Seeing the actors try to work under it turned out to be an unmitigated failure of execution.
     
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    Even today I'm asking my self what was on S T D producer's and designer 's mind when they changed Klingons. Especially when we have legit people like Worf.
     
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    Bryan Fuller wanted the Klingons to look less human. As far as we know, that was the only reason.
     
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  17. fireproof78

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    To make it more alien. That's the purpose.
     
  18. ichab

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    I asked the same question. The Klingons are so well established at this point that the producers would have been better off using that new design for a new race. No one would have known the difference.
     
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    This is how I 1000% feel like they should approach changes. Ships, aliens, whatever.

    I actually even feel like this about things like the explanation of Whoopi Goldberg’s age in Picard. If they hadn’t mentioned it I for one could have suspended my disbelief. But I was embarrassed by their convoluted explanation.

    I do think though it’s an interesting balance for creatures with alien design. Because the less human you make them look the more difficult it is for human actors to show emotions we understand. One advantage to say Worf and Martok Klingon’s is just the practical aspect of seeing what expression they are making.
     
  20. fireproof78

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    Aliens being more alien is always my preference.

    The actors did fine. I followed them fine. Be alien!
     
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