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Spoilers Did Picard finally ''right the ship'' with Picard season 3?

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That’s pretty hard to imagine. The insanely huge quarters etc on pikes ship don’t add up to what we see in TOS. The Discoprise is significantly larger.
The ship was always modular. Pike's compliment is smaller meaning more space can be used in quarters. Swap out modules to accommodate doubling the crew.

It adds up as well as TMP.

Star Trek has never been consistent on the size of anything. There are countless arguments about the windows for crying out loud.
And what about the angle of the bridge?
 
Have they said in SNW that the crew complement of the Enterprise is still 203? I understand that it was mentioned in STD, but there's no necessary reason that should still be so.
 
You can really pin down the age of some of these people. 26 years passed before there was a Canon Explanation for Klingon Foreheads. For those who grew up with TNG, they just can't admit they were totally okay with no explanation given for the change until 2005.
I was perfectly fine with no explanation because I knew that there was no possible way to explain the makeup change without looking incredibly foolish.

If this was 20 years ago, in 2003, there would still be no canon expination

And there still isn't because that episode still doesn't explain how three Klingon characters from Kirk's era changed so rapidly in just 30 years.


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DS9 Blood Oath rendered any attempt to rationally explain the change moot. Not to mention we've had two more design changes since that Ent episode with the Kelvin Timeline and Discovery.
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I was perfectly fine with no explanation because I knew that there was no possible way to explain the makeup change without looking incredibly foolish.



And there still isn't because that episode still doesn't explain how three Klingon characters from Kirk's era changed so rapidly in just 30 years.


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DS9 Blood Oath rendered any attempt to rationally explain the change moot. Not to mention we've had two more design changes since that Ent episode with the Kelvin Timeline and Discovery.
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star-trek-discovery-klingons.jpg
That Kelvin Klingon is *chef's kiss* très magnifique. Perfection.
 
the idea that Klingons all look the same because of one or two TV episodes is like assuming all earthlings must look like Queen Elizabeth or a polar bear because someone found a Canadian toonie.
 
I was perfectly fine with no explanation because I knew that there was no possible way to explain the makeup change without looking incredibly foolish.



And there still isn't because that episode still doesn't explain how three Klingon characters from Kirk's era changed so rapidly in just 30 years.


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DS9 Blood Oath rendered any attempt to rationally explain the change moot. Not to mention we've had two more design changes since that Ent episode with the Kelvin Timeline and Discovery.
ZAXeLTN.jpeg
star-trek-discovery-klingons.jpg


I liked the STD Klingon design fine when I saw it in still images prior to the show's release, Seeing the actors try to work under it turned out to be an unmitigated failure of execution.
 
Even today I'm asking my self what was on S T D producer's and designer 's mind when they changed Klingons. Especially when we have legit people like Worf.
 
Even today I'm asking my self what was on S T D producer's and designer 's mind when they changed Klingons. Especially when we have legit people like Worf.
I asked the same question. The Klingons are so well established at this point that the producers would have been better off using that new design for a new race. No one would have known the difference.
 
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I was perfectly fine with no explanation because I knew that there was no possible way to explain the makeup change without looking incredibly foolish.

This is how I 1000% feel like they should approach changes. Ships, aliens, whatever.

I actually even feel like this about things like the explanation of Whoopi Goldberg’s age in Picard. If they hadn’t mentioned it I for one could have suspended my disbelief. But I was embarrassed by their convoluted explanation.

I do think though it’s an interesting balance for creatures with alien design. Because the less human you make them look the more difficult it is for human actors to show emotions we understand. One advantage to say Worf and Martok Klingon’s is just the practical aspect of seeing what expression they are making.
 
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