True. But some just like pew pew. Some days, I like a good pew pew based film.Well, over simpleminded and rote "character drama and issues oriented stories," anyway.
True. But some just like pew pew. Some days, I like a good pew pew based film.Well, over simpleminded and rote "character drama and issues oriented stories," anyway.
Not everyone.Everyone wants the tng crew back not what we got.
We didn't see ridged Klingons until TMP.Until it's in canon I won't buy it. Did it create purple klingons? I never saw a purple klingon until discovery.
Doesn't sound like it to me. PIC2 writing
Terry MatalasSo I came on as they had just finished shooting Season 1, and they had started a little mini-room for Season 2. And that's when I when I came on, I was in a room with Akiva and Michael Chabon and a few others, and I said: "Well, do you guys have any ideas for Season 2?" And obviously, I had a trillion, right? [laughs]. And they said, "No, do you?" And I said: "Well, it's got to be Q. It's one of [Picard's] first relationships." And they were like, "Okay." Immediately, within five minutes, Akiva was like: "Okay, that makes sense. That's probably right for Picard." And then we said something about the aging, and I'm like, "Well, he would just appear how he was, and then Q would say something [to Picard]: 'Oh, I don't want you to feel so bad' and then he'd snap his fingers. So it was just it was just one of those things that sort of easily flowed right from the get go.
@The Old Mixer and @KennyB, I love you guys. That's why I'm not going to say what I want to.
So a writer came in with ideas and shared them when asked. Sounds like the normal creative process to me.
Nu-uh! When you like at Kor's make up in "Day of the Dove" there are clearly ridges on it and that indicates they wanted ridged Klingons from the start but the studio didn't want it. TMP is the true way Klingons should look, especially with the side burns! That's why they have purple blood! Except when they don't. Because...We didn't see ridged Klingons until TMP.
You can really pin down the age of some of these people. 26 years passed before there was a Canon Explanation for Klingon Foreheads. For those who grew up with TNG, they just can't admit they were totally okay with no explanation given for the change until 2005.Nu-uh! When you like at Kor's make up in "Day of the Dove" there are clearly ridges on it and that indicates they wanted ridged Klingons from the start but the studio didn't want it. TMP is the true way Klingons should look, especially with the side burns! That's why they have purple blood! Except when they don't. Because...
If this was 20 years ago, in 2003, there would still be no Canon Explanation for the change and they were totally fine with it at the time. So they're applying double standards for what they don't like. They just can't admit it.
Well, unfortunately, that reflected an ongoing trend of explaining everything. Solo probably exemplifies this the most, but you have prequels showing teams coming together, or the origins of Wolverine, or Batman beginning. We see this trend of a limited imagination and a requirement to show every single way things happened. It's...disappointing.While I liked that episode, one of Enterprise's big mistakes was what they did with the Klingons and having to spell it out.
What I love about The Batman is that they didn't do the Origin Story Yet Again. When we see him in the film, he's already been doing this for two years, and they just go right into it. And no ties to the Extended Universe. It's the single best live-action version of Batman ever filmed.Well, unfortunately, that reflected an ongoing trend of explaining everything. Solo probably exemplifies this the most, but you have prequels showing teams coming together, or the origins of Wolverine, or Batman beginning. We see this trend of a limited imagination and a requirement to show every single way things happened. It's...disappointing.
What I love about The Batman is that they didn't do the Origin Story Yet Again. When we see him in the film, he's already been doing this for two years, and they just go right into it. And no ties to the Extended Universe. It's the single best live-action version of Batman ever filmed.
I love TDK, don't get me wrong, but the Joker is who really makes that movie. Christian Bale's Bruce Wayne is good. His Batman, OTOH, I don't like as much.You think it's better than Dark Knight? It was a good film but I think I liked Dark Knight better.
I love TDK, don't get me wrong, but the Joker is who really makes that movie. Christian Bale's Bruce Wayne is good. His Batman, OTOH, I don't like as much.
Yup.Ah, I see -- you're comparing Christian Bale's Batman to Robert Pattinson's Batman, not the film The Dark Knight to the film The Batman.
I don't use "headcanon" often, but I've decided the best way to look at Season 1 of Discovery is that Michael Burnham is an unreliable narrator, and we see Klingons as monstrous because that's how she perceived them.
Yup.
So you still like it? Did it right the ship in your eyes, if that was necessary?4 episodes in and so far I stand by my statements in the OP.
So you still like it? Did it right the ship in your eyes, if that was necessary?
It remains to be seen whether the ship has been righted - as you say, season 1 and particularly season 2 started off well but very soon went downhill.
That said, the media have been given access to the first six episodes for review purposes and those I'm aware of seem to be very positive. I'm hopeful that many lessons have been learned from all of the mistakes made during seasons 1 and 2 and that season 3 will actually be good. It helps that Terry Matalas is now the sole, main showrunner of season 3 as he seems to respect the Star Trek franchise.