Spoilers Did Picard finally ''right the ship'' with Picard season 3?

True. But some just like pew pew. Some days, I like a good pew pew based film.

 

Not everyone.

We didn't see ridged Klingons until TMP.

 

Terry Matalas
https://www.syfy.com/syfy-wire/star-trek-picard-terry-matalas-interview

 

Uh. Ok.

 

So a writer came in with ideas and shared them when asked. Sounds like the normal creative process to me.

 

Nu-uh! When you like at Kor's make up in "Day of the Dove" there are clearly ridges on it and that indicates they wanted ridged Klingons from the start but the studio didn't want it. TMP is the true way Klingons should look, especially with the side burns! That's why they have purple blood! Except when they don't. Because...

 

You can really pin down the age of some of these people. 26 years passed before there was a Canon Explanation for Klingon Foreheads. For those who grew up with TNG, they just can't admit they were totally okay with no explanation given for the change until 2005.

If this was 20 years ago, in 2003, there would still be no Canon Explanation for the change and they were totally fine with it at the time. So they're applying double standards for what they don't like. They just can't admit it.

 

While I liked that episode, one of Enterprise's big mistakes was what they did with the Klingons and having to spell it out. It's interesting in that it happened the same season they rectified the Vulcans and actually had it make sense from a prequel perspective.

 

Well, unfortunately, that reflected an ongoing trend of explaining everything. Solo probably exemplifies this the most, but you have prequels showing teams coming together, or the origins of Wolverine, or Batman beginning. We see this trend of a limited imagination and a requirement to show every single way things happened. It's...disappointing.

 

What I love about The Batman is that they didn't do the Origin Story Yet Again. When we see him in the film, he's already been doing this for two years, and they just go right into it. And no ties to the Extended Universe. It's the single best live-action version of Batman ever filmed.

It's something I like about Strange New Worlds too. Because it's following "The Cage" and the first two seasons of DSC, Pike's been Captain for years. Number One and Spock have been there for a while. Everything's already established and we already know roughly what the state of affairs is like.

 

You think it's better than Dark Knight? It was a good film but I think I liked Dark Knight better.

 

I love TDK, don't get me wrong, but the Joker is who really makes that movie. Christian Bale's Bruce Wayne is good. His Batman, OTOH, I don't like as much.

 

Ah, I see -- you're comparing Christian Bale's Batman to Robert Pattinson's Batman, not the film The Dark Knight to the film The Batman.

 

Yup.

 

To take that further, each series has a main protagonist and the differences/inconsistencies between them all are easily reconciled by the same logic - TNG is so pristine because that is how Picard sees Starfleet/The Federation and Picard (the series) is darker as now he is older and feels let down post Romulus that is how he sees the world.

Voyager returns to the TNG approach as Janeway is 70k light years away and so needs that good old Federation feel to keep morale to help get the crew home

Kirk was an old fashioned swash buckler and loved a bit of Chuck Norris - hence the western theme

I like your thinking Eschaton

 

Thanks for clarifying because I too thought you were comparing the two films. I think I agree with you that jumping into Pattinson's Batman did help the film quite a bit.

 

4 episodes in and so far I stand by my statements in the OP.

 

So you still like it? Did it right the ship in your eyes, if that was necessary?

 

I like this season over the other 2 so far, so at the moment I would say I the ship has been righted. They could still fail to stick the landing by the end, we will see.

 

Well, TBH and IMHO, a new showrunner may not have seen older Trek and may want to introduce a new style - hopefully blending in with what had gone before to have a little more robust continuity rather than to feel so jarring... those familiar can still add innovative marks - and that's preferable to try, as it's hard to get less creative than doing outright retreads.

Matlas, from what I've seen, has definitely reinvigorated livened up the show, while boosting aspects* I was finding myself disagreeing to before.

Some people are trying to pass off the under-lit sets as "cinematic', but I disagree. For decades, nothing had to be under-lit. Even "Generations", which under-lit the 1701-D interior sets because they were knackered after 178 episodes over 7 years and any imperfection would show up on higher quality film, didn't turn the lighting completely down to zero. If for no other reason than "it looks bad", try waking up at 1am to go potty and don't fumble to find the light switch - if the act of finding the switch in the dark isn't evidence enough, go the extra mile and see if you can make it before it makes you. The word "impractical" comes to mind, along with a bunch of others... Add in 1701-E and scores of other sets over the decades, nothing be nigh-on pitch black and it still all looks cinematic.

But that's the only gripe I've actually got**. The quality of the storytelling and acting has me focused where it's supposed to be; the background details*** aren't as jarring.


* e.g. the profanity - but the newfound context makes it feel genuinely appropriate and less out of inane jocularity in a mistaken belief that the use of the verbiage for its own sake is "adult" (like many comedians who swear every third word because they think it's funny and inventive, those routines haven't dated as well, but I unsurprisingly digress), but I may never assimilate to today's use of diminutive slang, replacing entire words with just their first syllables because someone thought it was "cool" and it somehow caught on, sometimes beyond context and reason, not to mention inflection or lack thereof that made it compelling in the first place - rendering most people parroting it that much lesser. We've all done it at one point because we all want to be "cool".

** save for the overuse of the well-tread dull teal/orange palette, but complementary (or split-complementary) is a given

*** smirk