Spoilers Did Picard finally ''right the ship'' with Picard season 3?
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Also -- at least it has actual characters with personalities and relationships and thematic concerns, rather than exposition-dumping machines whose job it is to tech the tech when the tech is down to 20%.
Season 2 of PIC is my least favorite season of live-action New Trek. (Like I said, I stopped watching Lower Decks, so obviously I'd place that lower, if I were to rank it.)
When comparing it to all of Star Trek: l'll take PIC Season 2 over TNG Season 1, ENT Season 2, a lot of Star Trek episodes in various other places... and at least I politically agree with PIC Season 2, unlike ENT Season 3 which is a Big Fat Republican-Fest.
But to drive it back to the OT, I don't think there's a gigantic gulf between PIC Season 3 and the rest. I think there's some bias and personal preference at play when people say "It's soooo much better!" Maybe it really is just the Terry Matalas touch. I think Michael Chabon's approach was just as valid. The only difference between PIC Season 1 and PIC Season 3 for me, so far, is that I get a bigger blast out of PIC Season 3 and I have more fun with it. It's less of a downer, and I say this as someone who likes that sort of thing for dramatic purposes.
When comparing it to all of Star Trek: l'll take PIC Season 2 over TNG Season 1, ENT Season 2, a lot of Star Trek episodes in various other places... and at least I politically agree with PIC Season 2, unlike ENT Season 3 which is a Big Fat Republican-Fest.
But to drive it back to the OT, I don't think there's a gigantic gulf between PIC Season 3 and the rest. I think there's some bias and personal preference at play when people say "It's soooo much better!" Maybe it really is just the Terry Matalas touch. I think Michael Chabon's approach was just as valid. The only difference between PIC Season 1 and PIC Season 3 for me, so far, is that I get a bigger blast out of PIC Season 3 and I have more fun with it. It's less of a downer, and I say this as someone who likes that sort of thing for dramatic purposes.
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What was your breaking point on that show?
PICARD season 2 is worse than TNG season 1 because at least TNG season was trying different things to see whst worked, and we got a few great episodes in that season, too. PIC season 2 doesn't have that excuse... they were going for an season arc and knew what they going for, and took such a nosedive after episode 2 that it took the finale to put things back into place and it still didn't fully stick the landing.
ENT season 2 was more boring than bad, though it meandered just as much as PIC sesson 2, so it can be equal to that season in that regard.
VGR season 6 was the most chaotic in terms of good and bad episodes, I can't even rate it because it seems so schizophrenic.
VGR season 7 was a lot of wasted time.
But... I will agree that PICARD season 2 is not the worst live action in the franchise. (I think I will say it's the next worst.)
That crown is worn by DISCO season 2. It was not only bad, but it was very chaotic and had a lot of meandering in the middle and there were lots of boring parts within the season. It basically has the worst elements of each of the seasons I listed and condensed them into this single season. Truly, if Anson Mount was not there, I would have called that season an unmitigated disaster.
Haha. I find season 2 the best of live action NuTrek, such as it is. At least it doesn't do the damage season 1 did.
I'll say this... that season goes so far off the deep end that it makes it fairly easy to disregard the entire series as being far removed from pre-established continuity so I can just walk away.
To each their own. I don't find it hard to see it being the same continuity at all.
I have to agree with this, though it is not a season I wish to revisit, mostly due to my personal distates of elements used. However, Picard exploring his personal trauma is a high point, and something worthwhile which I cannot say for other seasons of Trek.
I will still prefer Season 1 of Picard just because it tried something different and involved more Romulans which is something I want to see more of.
Yeah. Same here. I feel like people make continuity way harder than it needs to be. Star Trek all fits together for me.
Nah. Even if it sucks it's very in continuity.
Not speaking for you. I know you thought it was great Trek...lol....
But pretty sure at this point the majority did NOT love it. There is a reason why the producers went the way they did for season 3....and it's definitely not due to fan love for season 1 and 2....
Oh I didn't think it was great, I just don't like it when someone acts like everyone disliked/liked something.Not speaking for you. I know you thought it was great Trek...lol....
But pretty sure at this point the majority did NOT love it. There is a reason why the producers went the way they did for season 3....and it's definitely not due to fan love for season 1 and 2....
Because Terry had a story he wanted to tell and was not limited by COVID, that's why.
Indeed. I'm no fan of Season 2, but good grief you would think they shot everyone's dog the way people carry on about it.
But, Season 3 is the greatest ever, right? Yet we're still focused on Season 2? People are ridiculous.
I doubt COVID was the reason that Delancie got skunked on screen time....
Season 3 was written and started filming before Season 2 even aired, so it had nothing to do with fan reception.
To each their own.
FWIW, the continuity consultant for season 3 is a contributor to a website that argues differently. And season 3's link with wider continuity is one reason I'm really liking it so far.
Speaking off, I can't remember the last time I was this excited for a show week to week... maybe the final season of BSG?
Since their scripts had to be adjusted and scheduled completely reworked I would say it had an impact, even if it was the only reason.
Indeed.
So what?
Said consultant considers all the shows to be in the same continuity, or at the very least never said anything to the contrarty. He doesn't write the articles, he just does the research.
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