Spoilers Deadpool & Wolverine grade and discussion thread

[Dar70]

Pretty much all streaming right now and fandoms. Fandoms want to feel like they are in their younger years again and demand that feeling over and over again. Euphoria maintained forever.

Impossible.

I don't necessarily want things to feel like my younger years. MCU started when I was in my late 30's. I just wish they had a consistent tone and not get too silly. That's all.

I remember when the SW prequels came out and all the complaining about the film. I loved TPM. I didn't care that it didn't feel like when I was 7. I loved just about everything that everyone else hated. Rots ended up being my all time favorite SW film.

 

[Mage]

I don't necessarily want things to feel like my younger years. MCU started when I was in my late 30's. I just wish they had a consistent tone and not get too silly. That's all.

I remember when the SW prequels came out and all the complaining about the film. I loved TPM. I didn't care that it didn't feel like when I was 7. I loved just about everything that everyone else hated. Rots ended up being my all time favorite SW film.

It was always clear that each MCU movie has a style of it's own to fit in. That at some point more OTT comedy was going to be a thing, was only logical.

Here's the thing though.... No matter how good you are as a director, producer, writer, actor, editor..... No movie will ever appeal to every person on this world. Not every movie out there is for me. And I accept that and move on. And entire idea of wishing a style of a franchise would be altered to cater to my wishes is something that would never occur to me. Because, looking at both the reviews and the BO, this particular one is doing great. And why would I, as a minority, demand something be changed that the majority seems to like? That would be just be selfish.
No, I just realize it's not for me and find something I do like.

 

[Noname Given]

Damage has most certainly been done in my eyes. The MCU was created by a robot named Kevin and She Hulk met him and rewrote her story. Daredevil was made a joke. The MCU has a Dumpling god in a spoon. They made the universe so cartoonie and silly there is no redemption imo.

Ahhh when the MCU was so good.

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Daredevil just falls out of the sky...



https://youtu.be/OHLqC-3b0YA?si=Uqedc0oJthkd2RI6

On of the BEST scenes in SHE-HULK (had me rolling) was the Daredevil/Matt Murdoch "Walk of Shame" the 'Morning After' scene...with him in the costume carrying the boots.

 

[Nerys Myk]

Okay this was Marvel's movie slate over the past few year. The ones in bold are the heavily comedic ones. The rest have some comedic elements, but no more than the previous films. So, I'm not really seeing a trend toward all comedy all the time. Even AM&TW:Quantumania which is part of a more comedic series is less so in that installment

The Multiverse Saga: Phase Four (2021-2022)

Black Widow
Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings
Eternals
Spider-Man: No Way Home
Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness
Thor: Love and Thunder
Black Panther: Wakanda Forever

Phase Five (2023-2024)

Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania
Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3
The Marvels
Deadpool & Wolverine

On the TV side

WandaVision
Falcon and the Winter Soldier
Loki
What If...?
Hawkeye
Moon Knight
Ms Marvel
She-Hulk: Attorney At Law
Secret Invasion
Echo

 

[Mage]

Okay this was Marvel's movie slate over the past few year. The ones in bold are the heavily comedic ones. The rest have some comedic elements, but no more than the previous films. So, I'm not really seeing a trend toward all comedy all the time. Even AM&TW:Quantumania which is part of a more comedic series is less so in that installment

The Multiverse Saga: Phase Four (2021-2022)

Black Widow
Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings
Eternals
Spider-Man: No Way Home
Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness
Thor: Love and Thunder
Black Panther: Wakanda Forever

Phase Five (2023-2024)

Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania
Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3
The Marvels
Deadpool & Wolverine

On the TV side

WandaVision
Falcon and the Winter Soldier
Loki
What If...?
Hawkeye
Moon Knight
Ms Marvel
She-Hulk: Attorney At Law
Secret Invasion
Echo

And three out of four of those had some pretty in depth emotional stuff going.

 

[Nerys Myk]

And three out of four of those had some pretty in depth emotional stuff going.

GotG vol 3 I'm not crying, your crying!
I still cant show it to my wife because she's an animal lover involved with a cat rescue.

 

[Dar70]

On of the BEST scenes in SHE-HULK (had me rolling) was the Daredevil/Matt Murdoch "Walk of Shame" the 'Morning After' scene...with him in the costume carrying the boots.

Yeah I had no problem with that scene.

 

[JD]

Yeah I know. But I could probably stomach Deadpool more than She Hulk. Since he's touched in the head. She hulk is pure green acres comedy.

We all knew DAW would do big money and it was specifically because Hugh came back.

I get that lot of you like the goofy stuff. That's cool. I just don't care for it. I love whimsical one liners and what not. But sometimes I think they just go too far and it takes me right out of the film.

Just out of curiosity, do you not like comedy and humor in movies and TV at all, or is it just that you prefer superhero stuff to be more serious?

 

[Dar70]

Just out of curiosity, do you not like comedy and humor in movies and TV at all, or is it just that you prefer superhero stuff to be more serious?

I don't like extreme comedy in anything unless it's a comedy. But I don't mind light hearted stuff. I consider GOTG a light hearted adventure. I don't consider She Hulk or Deadpool light hearted. They take the comedy way too far. As did Thor Love and Thunder and The Marvels.

It's the same thing but for a different reason, in Fast And Furious. Fast and furious started out as an Action film where one has to suspend their disbelief a bit. As the series went along it got a little bit more extreme and over the top. The point when I thought.. "They are starting to going too far with this." Was the 6th film when Dom crashed his Daytona into a concrete barrier on an a elevated freeway and launched himself from the hood on impact and caught letty mid air. They both landed on another car. Not a scratch. The very first film Dom was much more prone to getting hurt as was evident in the last scene.
But I let that scene slide in 6 slide and still liked the film overall. By the 7th film I was no longer a fan of the series. A series I absolutely loved from the start. It went too far. 8, 9 and 10 were even worse. I never saw them in theaters and just waited for Andrew showing. Car in space, Dom being thrown from an exploding monster trailer truck and literally bounces off the concert and just his shirt gets dirty.

Yet some FF fans still eat it up and think it's action movie gold. I would have preferred they maintain the tone they established up to the 5th film but they just went to far with the outrageous stunts and Dom being completely invincible. Not to mention they brought back dead characters in completely stupid ways.

I don't mind movie franchises getting experimental or entering new territories. But sometimes they take it to places where it should not go.

 

[Nerys Myk]

The Marvels.

Was it the singing?

 

[Dar70]

Was it the singing?

Oh God I forgot about that planet. I was mostly thinking about the flerkens.

 

[Nerys Myk]

Oh God I forgot about that planet. I was mostly thinking about the flerkens.

That was my second guess

 

[JD]

I don't like extreme comedy in anything unless it's a comedy. But I don't mind light hearted stuff. I consider GOTG a light hearted adventure. I don't consider She Hulk or Deadpool light hearted. They take the comedy way too far. As did Thor Love and Thunder and The Marvels.

But She-Hulk, and the Deadpools, are comedies and have always been presented as comedies from the beginning, so I don't see why that's a problem. I don't really see where Love & Thunder and The Marvels are that far off from The Guardians of the Galaxy or Ant-Man movies.
And I think part of the problem is that you're approaching all of Marvel as one series, and expecting them all to have a uniform tone, and style, but it's not, it's a universe/franchise with multiple series in it. The Guardians movies are a separate series from the Thor movie, which are separate series from The Capt. Marvel movies, ect.

Was it the singing?

Oh God I forgot about that planet. I was mostly thinking about the flerkens.

Those were my favorite parts of the movie.

 

[fireproof78]

It was always clear that each MCU movie has a style of it's own to fit in. That at some point more OTT comedy was going to be a thing, was only logical.

Here's the thing though.... No matter how good you are as a director, producer, writer, actor, editor..... No movie will ever appeal to every person on this world. Not every movie out there is for me. And I accept that and move on. And entire idea of wishing a style of a franchise would be altered to cater to my wishes is something that would never occur to me. Because, looking at both the reviews and the BO, this particular one is doing great. And why would I, as a minority, demand something be changed that the majority seems to like? That would be just be selfish.
No, I just realize it's not for me and find something I do like.

This.

I've not seen many of the recent phase of MCU productions because it's not for me.

Oh no. The horror.

 

[Dar70]

Okay this was Marvel's movie slate over the past few year. The ones in bold are the heavily comedic ones. The rest have some comedic elements, but no more than the previous films. So, I'm not really seeing a trend toward all comedy all the time. Even AM&TW:Quantumania which is part of a more comedic series is less so in that installment

The Multiverse Saga: Phase Four (2021-2022)

Black Widow
Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings
Eternals
Spider-Man: No Way Home
Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness
Thor: Love and Thunder
Black Panther: Wakanda Forever

Phase Five (2023-2024)

Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania
Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3
The Marvels
Deadpool & Wolverine

On the TV side

WandaVision
Falcon and the Winter Soldier
Loki
What If...?
Hawkeye
Moon Knight
Ms Marvel
She-Hulk: Attorney At Law
Secret Invasion
Echo

I would include Antman in that also. Though I liked Antman. But it was the silliest of the three. Also the Marvels.
Again I'm not against against comedy in the films. It's the extreme that I dont care for. When they go to far it just takes me out of the film

It also bothers me that the Entire MCU is "written" by a robot with a metal baseball cap....

 

[Tuskin38]

Does anyone think we'll get an uncut version? I think there is a ton of stuff we didn't see but considering this isn't a Fox movie I doubt they'll do it.

They were asked that in an interview, and they said no.

 

[Forbin]

That last Thor film. Ugh. They took two of the most dire and dramatic story lines from the recent comics - the God Killer arc and Jane's cancer arc - and mashed them together into a silly goddam 'comedy episode.' What a frakkin travesty.

 

[Skywalker]

That last Thor film. Ugh. They took two of the most dire and dramatic story lines from the recent comics - the God Killer arc and Jane's cancer arc - and mashed them together into a silly goddam 'comedy episode.' What a frakkin travesty.

The sad thing is, when they did take those two storylines seriously (it was fleeting, but it did happen a few times), it was really good. They just couldn't lay off the awful attempts at comedy.

 

[Tuskin38]

I just rewatched Love and Thunder, I still
enjoy it

 

[Mage]

I just rewatched Love and Thunder, I still
enjoy it

Same. I think I preferred Ragnarok a bit more.