Cut the quips

Voyager had plenty, particularly from Janeway - “Go back to hell”, “Time to take out the garbage” and the like.

 

Because people were never sarcastic/snarky in "ye olden dayes?"

I think that's a bit silly.

 

Quips are a hit or miss for me, more miss in recent TV series or films when the jokes and humor don't land. Instance- I loved the quips in the first Avengers movie but hated them in the Age of Ultron sequel. Don't necessary feel it is needed for Star Trek unless they want Star Trek to appeal to the Avengers Marvel crowd.

 

They're trying to appeal to a wider audience yes.

 

Give yourself 50 lashes with a wet noodle.

 

None of it is necessary. Star Trek could be a sterile procedural drama and someone could be sarcastic in it. Sarcasm and quipping has long been a part of Trek, and this isn't just an appeal to the Avengers/Marvel crowd but the audience in general.

I still am failing to grasp when being sarcastic became something that was looked down upon as unworthy of Star Trek...?

 

All this back and forth, I think I am going to be space sick.

 

It's like regular sickness but in space!*


*with all due credit to SF Debris and his sarcastic snarkiness.

 

2022, when Erica Ortegas became a popular character on Strange New Worlds.

 

As we all know, Star Trek is not allowed to be popular. It is a somber, genuine, deeply introspective on the ideas of life, the evolution of mankind, and it's infinite capacity for seriousness. Humor is not welcome here.

Now, if you'll excuse me I must go watch The Three Stooges to perfect the art of not laughing.

 

"Well, isn't it lucky for you we just happened to be headed your way?"
"Spock, this child is about to wipe out every living thing on Earth. Now, what do you suggest we do, spank it?"
"Your child is having a tantrum, Mr. Spock!"

Even the super-serious, somber, introspective examination of the human condition allowed for a few quips to lighten the load.

 

Absolutely. McCoy was often invaluable when it came to bringing things down to earth with a wry aside. Often just when matters threaten to get too high-faluting.

"Hell of a time to ask."

"I'd pay good money for him to shut up."

"Be careful, Captain."
"We will."

"Jim, you don't ask the Almighty for his I.D."

Etc.

 

You even see sarcasm and snark in literature from hundreds of years ago. It's part of the human adventure.

Kor

 

I don't know. Check out any number of classic movies from the Golden Age of Hollywood: "All About Eve," "Bringing Up Baby," "Mystery of the Wax Museum," "The Lady Eve," the entire "Thin Man" series with Nick and Nora Charles, etc.

Delicious snark and sarcasm has been entertaining audiences for forever. It's not a new thing.

 

I want Ortegas to turn up in an episode of SNW wearing the T-shirt that I saw a customer in my store wearing today:

NATIONAL SARCASM SOCIETY

"Like we need your support."

 

Have wardrobe come up with its own version for Star Trek: STARFLEET SARCASM DIVISION.

 

From the Star Trek tricorder user manual...
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ilE33WFJ-SP70oCm0Otlkxk_x3Ced1M4/view?usp=sharing

 

Yes, I find it somewhat overdone. Too Marvel movie-ish for my tastes.