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Spoilers Captain Marvel - Grading & Discussion

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Sure it is. There's 30 years between CM and Endgame, the skrulls in this movie are just one small part of the skrull diaspora and this movie already establishes the search for a new homeworld as the skrull's driving force (which was their entire motivation in secret invasion).

And anyways, even in the comics we've run into groups of Skrulls hiding from the rest of their species because they just want to live quiet peaceful lives without warring with anyone anymore.

For some reason, detractors of the movie seem to think the Skrulls are supposed to represent the Immigrant Crisis in America now...when there's little to no resemblance.
 
I know this is off topic but I enjoyed Captain Marvel so much I watched The Unicorn Store. That was good, too.
That's good to read. I've been wanting to watch it despite the mediocre reviews I've seen. Larson and Jackson had a terrific chemistry in Captain Marvel and I imagine the same will be true for that film, too.
 
That's good to read. I've been wanting to watch it despite the mediocre reviews I've seen. Larson and Jackson had a terrific chemistry in Captain Marvel and I imagine the same will be true for that film, too.
I want them back together in the sequel. She can make some comment about what happened to his personality and he blames it all on having the deal with Tony Stark for so many years. He would also still have Goose. "I don't care if you scratched my eye out, I just can't stay mad at you."
 
Bonus points for snarking in character. That is such a Rhodey thing to say.

The real story is even worse in some respects. Apparently she had to hold her head a certain way because her hair was coming loose or something. So, because she was trying to maintain a hairstyle, she got criticized. But if she had just relaxed and let her hair start to fall down over her face during the interview she would have been criticized too. This whole thing is just idiotic.
 
I want them back together in the sequel. She can make some comment about what happened to his personality and he blames it all on having the deal with Tony Stark for so many years. He would also still have Goose. "I don't care if you scratched my eye out, I just can't stay mad at you."
I would love to see modern Fury in all his badassness close a door and start talking baby talk to his cat. Only to go back to FURY as soon as someone opens the door. Going forward, it seems like Carol is going to be the only character that knows who he really is and that opens the door for a lot of humor, but also potentially great dramatic moments.
 
I want them back together in the sequel. She can make some comment about what happened to his personality and he blames it all on having the deal with Tony Stark for so many years. He would also still have Goose. "I don't care if you scratched my eye out, I just can't stay mad at you."
I would love to see modern Fury in all his badassness close a door and start talking baby talk to his cat. Only to go back to FURY as soon as someone opens the door. Going forward, it seems like Carol is going to be the only character that knows who he really is and that opens the door for a lot of humor, but also potentially great dramatic moments.
Yup, I definitely want all of this. A lot of great potential there to work with.
 
I would love to see modern Fury in all his badassness close a door and start talking baby talk to his cat. Only to go back to FURY as soon as someone opens the door. Going forward, it seems like Carol is going to be the only character that knows who he really is and that opens the door for a lot of humor, but also potentially great dramatic moments.

The funny thing is, according to BTS stuff Fury decided to model himself and his current appearance on Talos. The longcoat and demeanor. He was impressed by him.
 
I hope that when the Fantastic Four show up, they keep Johnny around Peter’s age, having all the teenager heroes together could be fun. The Ultimate line did a comic of their younger characters as the new Ultimates (their Avengers). It was Miles as Spider-Man, Black Widow (Ultimate Spider-Woman who is Peter’s clone), Kitty Pride, Cloak and Dagger, and new character who could generate explosions. It was fun.
In the main universe there's also the Champions, which is Miles, Kamala, Amadeus Cho, who is a teenage Hulk known as Brawn, the Vision's android daughter, and a whole bunch of other teen heroes.
I think the people behind the petition are MRAs who are still offended by Brie's request to be interviewed by someone who isn't a white male...
I think it probably is, they are the only people who I've seen who seem to hate her take on Capt. Marvel that much.
 
I think it probably is, they are the only people who I've seen who seem to hate her take on Capt. Marvel that much.

Riddiculous isn't it to hate a person just for a role, same with the hate the actor who played King joffrey was given.
The movie Captain Marvel had many great moments lik showing us that cats are dangerous and evil (I am more a dog person :) )
 
Deleted scene that shows both the diversity of Kree skin colors as well as the Kree indoctrination of the young.

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Nice little scene but I understand why they took it out. It doesn't really add anything other scenes don't already cover (the Supreme Intelligence, who Carol sees, why Carol doesn't like the Skrulls, why she thinks she has the implant, etc.).
 
Didn't people complain for the gender bender of the Ancient One in Doctor Strange too? Or it was the whitewashing? Or both?

Or is it the fact that Tilda Swinton is a legit space alien who has managed to pass as human? (Seriously, she's not even bothering with her usual human wig!) :p

Yeah, I got all that; I just didn't find it very compelling. The movie underplays the arc too, IMO, as Carol never seems particularly shocked or haunted by the possibly innocent lives she's presumably taken offscreen, and when she turns against Jude Law, she only seems mildly peeved at him.

And the whole hero-realizes-that-she's-working-for-the-bad-guys-and-switches-sides isn't even unique for female MCU heroes, since we've already got Gamora, Nebula, Mantis, Scarlet Witch, and maybe even Valkyrie depending upon how much you classify the Grandmaster as a villain.

Maybe it wasn’t made for you and that’s why it’s not connecting.

And just who, pray tell, is the movie made for? Seriously, let's spell it out.

If the implication is supposed to be that the movie is made for women, then why was the audience something like 60% men? I think that, while it's true that movies can be made for a certain audience, it's more a matter of genre, not gender.

But the end goal is to just get rid of the scary lady who attacked all men by saying we should have more female movie reviewers.

Brie Larson has referred to white men in a way that, if she were speaking about any other identity group, would have been immediately condemned as hate speech. Her goal may be merely more diversity but that's not how she said it. If she had some women and minority critics whose work she wanted to promote, by all means go for it. But a lot of people seem to think that promoting diversity is too hard, so they just settle for denigrating white men and figure, "Meh, basically the same thing. Good enough."

Why did Come as You Are by Nirvana play in Carole's Supreme Intelligence vision despite the song being released in 1992, three years after she left Earth meaning she would have no knowledge of it?

Also, didn't she have a flashback in the bar of playing Street Fighter II, a game that didn't come out until after she left Earth?

Overall, the movie was a mediocre Marvel effort. I don't think that the 1990s aesthetic was enough of a hook to hang the movie on. Brie Larson had some decent bits, mostly with Maria, but seems to have very little screen charisma compared to the rest of the MCU. Samuel L. Jackson and Ben Mendelssohn are fairly entertaining, although reducing Nick Fury's eye to a joke was very disappointing. Jude Law is normally one of my favorite actors but seemed to be a non-presence here. "Just a Girl" was a bit on the nose but at least it's not as clichéd and overused as "Bad Reputation."
 
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