Spoilers Canon, Continuity, and Pike's Accident

[Ovation]

a timeline so identical to the last the Ent-E crew didn't notice any differences when returning home?

Why not? In Parallels, we see Worf experience/observe different realities that range from minutely different (chocolate vs vanilla cake) to suicidal Riker in Borg overrun galaxy. If the conceit is “infinite possibility” then yes, it’s possible. Kelvinverse is just one such possibility.

Ultimately, it doesn’t matter. Just as the needs of the story trumps pure historical accuracy (as it should in a historical dramatization—though not a documentary), so too should the needs of the story trump pure continuity (especially as Trek is fiction, not a period piece).

 

[Racefuel]

God we're back to the "First Contact created a new timeline" crap, again.

Is it 2002-2005 again and I didn't notice? If so, why am I stuck in my 38 year old body and not my 19 year old body.

This is some shit.

 

[fireproof78]

God we're back to the "First Contact created a new timeline" crap, again.

Is it 2002-2005 again and I didn't notice? If so, why am I stuck in my 38 year old body and not my 19 year old body.

This is some shit.

Welcome to Star Trek Fandom were everything is made up and the arguments are circular.

 

[Magistos]

All this has happened before, and will happen again...

 

[Tallguy]

All this has happened before, and will happen again...

Hey, that's Doctor Who!

 

[Tuskin38]

Hey, that's Doctor Who!

I thought it was Back to the Future

 

[fireproof78]

I thought it was The Time Machine.

 

[Ovation]

I thought it was Battlestar Galactica.

 

[Tallguy]

I thought it was Battlestar Galactica.

Certainly not.

 

[Noname Given]

Multiple subspecies of Gorn under the Hegemony.

Sort of like Klingons (Smooth and Bumpy heads)...

Welcome to Star Trek Fandom were everything is made up and the arguments are circular.

"All this has been argued before and will be argued again..."
(Yeah I know....I'm crossing the IPs)

 

[fireproof78]

Sort of like Klingons (Smooth and Bumpy heads)...

I figured it was a subjugated race, see the Hyskos and Egyptians for an historical example.

 

[The Wormhole]

Hey, that's Doctor Who!

I thought it was Back to the Future

I thought it was The Time Machine.

I thought it was Battlestar Galactica.

I can't believe it's not butter.

 

[JRob94]

I figured it was a subjugated race, see the Hyskos and Egyptians for an historical example.

I NEVER considered that before! I LOVE that idea! Pardon the pun, but forehead cannon accepted

 

[Tallguy]

Yeah, for some reason the Klingon EMPIRE (also the Romulans) doesn't have any member / subject planets / races. IMHO if DS9 had to bring back the classic Klingon actors it should have also brought back the classic Klingons. Room for all!

 

[CorporalClegg]

and it doesn't really matter.

It really doesn't.

All big franchise have their canon police. But this prevailing pathological obsession with it is uniquely Trekkian. And it's so fucking tiresome.

 

[drt]

It really doesn't.

All big franchise have their canon police. But this prevailing pathological obsession with it is uniquely Trekkian. And it's so fucking tiresome.

I’ve seen it start creeping into Doctor Who, which is funny to me because it is the least consistent major sci-fi franchise. Star Wars was probably safe for so long because for 40 years there was so little of it to contradict.

 

[Nerys Myk]

It really doesn't.

All big franchise have their canon police. But this prevailing pathological obsession with it is uniquely Trekkian. And it's so fucking tiresome.

There's a proprietary streak in Trek fandom that you don't find in a lot of other fandoms. Might come from the "we saved the show" legend.

 

[fireproof78]

There's a proprietary streak in Trek fandom that you don't find in a lot of other fandoms. Might come from the "we saved the show" legend.

Probably. You do see a similar view in Tolkien fandom, with hardliners who reject the films, and even the Similarion .

 

[Noname Given]

Probably. You do see a similar view in Tolkien fandom, with hardliners who reject the films, and even the Similarion .

Battlestar Galactica fandom too.

There are those who consider Ron Moore's reboot "Galactica in name only" (GINO).

 

[Mudd]

There's a proprietary streak in Trek fandom that you don't find in a lot of other fandoms. Might come from the "we saved the show" legend.

It was something GR actively encouraged in the 1970s to keep the fan movement motivated. He seemed to have regretted it just a bit when Phase II went into development and he started getting fan hate mail about not having Spock back.