Spoilers Canon, Continuity, and Pike's Accident

[Mudd]

A lot of visual design and preproduction stuff for Desanto's HSG in this video:

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[somebuddyX]

A lot of visual design and preproduction stuff for Desanto's HSG in this video:

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Cool!!

 

[Mudd]

 

[drt]

I had forgotten how far along the Singer version was.

 

[fireproof78]

People who hate the Star Wars SE's wouldn't care nearly as much if they could legally watch the originals.

I can.

 

[Ovation]

I can.

Ssshhh! You’re not supposed to say the quiet part out loud.

 

[fireproof78]

Ssshhh! You’re not supposed to say the quiet part out loud.

*quietly plugs his VHS player in*

 

[Tallguy]

*quietly plugs his VHS player in*

What a totally ingenuous argument. I don't even know why they bother to put the films on Disney+ when people still have VHS.

I had forgotten how far along the Singer version was.

I had no idea. That's mind blowing.

 

[fireproof78]

What a totally ingenuous argument. I don't even know why they bother to put the films on Disney+ when people still have VHS

I have often wondered that myself.

Actually, more so it's a matter of how can I legally watch films I enjoy, which I can.

 

[drt]

I bet when the 50th anniversary rolls around in a few years Disney releases fancy box sets with the originals. They’re less about Lucas’ vision and more about making money.

 

[Tuskin38]

The versions on Disney+ are based off the last edits George had done for the 3D release that never happened. Any of the changes were done Pre-Disney buying the company.

 

[fireproof78]

The versions on Disney+ are based off the last edits George had done for the 3D release that never happened. Any of the changes were done Pre-Disney buying the company.

And Kennedy seems to be willing to keep them were Lucas had them at.

 

[Tallguy]

I bet when the 50th anniversary rolls around in a few years Disney releases fancy box sets with the originals. They’re less about Lucas’ vision and more about making money.

I'll take that bet. Optimistically I'd give it 50/50.

 

[Paul755]

One thing I have found odd in the canon/continuity/whatever arguments is the hostility, smugness and snark between the “sides”.

seems typical for this kinda stuff. Yet still odd IMO.

 

[fireproof78]

One thing I have found odd in the canon/continuity/whatever arguments is the hostility, smugness and snark between the “sides”.

seems typical for this kinda stuff. Yet still odd IMO.

I think it's because of how personal Star Trek feels to all of us. So, arguing about different points of continuity isn't just a debate, but a personal attack.

Irrational, but very human.

 

[Yistaan]

One thing I have found odd in the canon/continuity/whatever arguments is the hostility, smugness and snark between the “sides”.

seems typical for this kinda stuff. Yet still odd IMO.

This is nothing compared to Star Wars. I myself am still enduring the ongoing Star Wars social media brainwashing that tells me that 2003 Clone Wars, Droids and Ewok cartoons, and Ewok movies were never canon and trying to reconcile that with what I actually remember from 2003 and the 1980s/1990s.

 

[fireproof78]

I think it's terms like "brainwashing" that color these conversations in a much different light.

But, what do I know. I had my trusty Star Wars Encyclopedia to tell me canon from not.

 

[Paul755]

I think it's because of how personal Star Trek feels to all of us. So, arguing about different points of continuity isn't just a debate, but a personal attack.

Irrational, but very human.

true. it’s just the real or implied “whatever…idiot” responses that kinda throw me. Like who cares if someone listens to Kurtzman and co. when they say “prime timeline” or if someone yells from the top of their lungs “ITS ALL WRONG”.

 

[fireproof78]

true. it’s just the real or implied “whatever…idiot” responses that kinda throw me. Like who cares if someone listens to Kurtzman and co. when they say “prime timeline” or if someone yells from the top of their lungs “ITS ALL WRONG”.

I agree. And it's so frustrating, but also a blind spot for me since the Treks I usually like are not always the most popular to discuss. And, for me anyway, I have to step back and remind myself that we all got here because of a passion and interest in Star Trek. So if we try to remember that human element and not assume the worst of our fellow fans then maybe it would go better. Also, hopefully less black and white thinking.

Color me optimistic.

ETA: Just read a quote attributed to Morgan Freman that I feel is timely: "Just because I disagree with you does not mean I hate you. We need to relearn that in our society." I agree as well as relearn the art of conversation and cooperation.

 

[Markonian]

Was there supposed to be continuity between BSG TOS and nuBSG? I never thought so.

The comics connect the continuities via wormhole.