Can we discuss those pesky "fixed points in time?"

[Gingerbread Demon]

Well if he’d taken them as soon as the Flood was discovered and didn’t make a big deal about how important her death was then probably not.

Yeah I think that contributed to her suicide...... He made such a big deal of her life that the seed was planted. Bad Doctor

 

[diankra]

Thanks for the kind assessment! Now, if they had depicted some sort of flashback in "genesis..." itself, odds are we would have seen Michael Wisher himself without makeup and he in almost no way resembles this depiction. Or, if JoeQuick had sculpted the Terry Molloy mask or the Julian Bleach makeup and I used a different base figure, the partial strength "pre injury" morph would have looked different from what we see here. So it's still up to a wide range of interpretation how a younger "pre chair" Davros might look. This is just one of many possibilities.

But, again, I'm pleased you like it!

Just so you can decide for yourself how accurate (or not) it may be, here's JoeQuick's morph at full strength.

It's a bit of "mix'n'match" as it's the "Genesis..." features with the figure sitting in a "Stolen Earth" chair and sporting a custom bionic hand (texture and displacement map).

One of the few remaining mysteries (now we know April Walker was the original Sarah) is who was originally cast as Davros. Apparently a very prominent actor, who dropped out, leading to Michael Wisher taking over.
Richard Burton has been suggested. Donald Burton seems more likely.

 

[The Borgified Corpse]

Nobody's mentioned Adric's death. I remember when "Earthshock" was shown, fans (the ones who liked Adric) were angry with the Doctor for not going back to save him. They could have; once the ship's controls were fused so the ship would crash into Earth 65 million years ago, Adric was no longer necessary. It would have taken split-second timing, but it was doable.

Yet the Doctor refused, got angry, and told Tegan and Nyssa never to ask him again to save Adric.

Karma's a bitch: Adric's death haunted the Fifth Doctor, all the way through his regeneration. And rightfully so, in my view.

Yeah. I always wondered about this. I think a better explanation would be that something about the time warp that sent the spaceship back in time in the first place was preventing the TARDIS instruments from locating the ship again.

What was the deal with that time warp anyway? I never quite caught what caused it or if it was intentional or what. Best I can figure, the Cybermen's plan was to have the ship do a kamikaze run on the peace conference on Earth, thus breaking up the alliance between the different worlds attending so that the Cybermen didn't have to fight against a united enemy. But how the ship got sent from future Earth back to 65 million years ago is something that I never understood.

When they did that "Clara is so superduper-fantastic-wonderfully-perfect-that-no-doctor-can-do-without-her" bullshit and inserted her into every single other Doctor's timeline, they put her in Adric's place in Logopolis.

Really? I'd have to rewatch the episode but I could have sworn that Tom Baker's cameo is while wearing the brown coat from his earlier stories, not the burgundy one from "Logopolis." I thought that the Tom Baker clip was taken from "Revenge of the Cybermen" or "The Invasion of Time" or something. (Whatever it was, it wasn't nearly as iconic as Davison trapped in limbo from "Arc of Infinity" or McCoy's literal cliffhanger from "Dragonfire.")

And it's not like she retroactively helped the Doctor on all of these adventures. She was just there to undo the damage done by the Great Intelligence, usually doing so without the Doctor even realizing that she was there. The Doctor would have still succeeded in the first place had the Great Intelligence not ruined everything. Clara was just setting everything to rights.

The only valid reason I will ever accept for William Russell not being part of at least one episode that took place at Coal Hill School is if he was asked and said no. Yes, he was getting up in years... but even just a voiceover on the school's PA system or a mention that somebody had just talked to Ian Chesterton (or would talk to him sometime later) would have been a nice acknowledgment of the show's roots.

Yeah. I keep imagining a brief cameo for him at the beginning of "The Day of the Doctor." It's basically still the first scene with Clara teaching class when Ian comes to pop in on her and says, "Oh, that reminds me, the office told me to give you this message from a Dr. John Smith." Clara's eyes immediately light up and she ignores everything else that he says as she rushes out the door. Ian muses, "I used to travel with a man who went by that name. A very eccentric older fellow...." He turns, sees that she's gone, shrugs, and thinks nothing more of it.

A maker of DAZ based content named "JoeQuick", when he was still sculpting just for fun, made a likeness for me of the John Friedlander mask as worn by Michael Wisher.. I applied it to the intended base figure (Michael 3) and it distort the head to closely resemble the injured and withered Kaled scientist. Then I wondered, "How might it look if I only dialed it to partial strength, say, around 50 percent?" So that's what I did. I applied a more conventional skin texture (which had heavily mapped eyebrows) and I placed a simple brushed back hairstyle. This was years before Capaldi episodes, so I used black (aged to a dark grey) rather than the dirty blonde "kid" Davros had. It was just dumb luck that I gave him piercing blue eyes.

Anyway, this was the result.

Yeah, I went a bit heavy with the "bump maps" and this was rendered with an "engine" that could not calculate things like "subsurface" light scattering upon skin, so it's quite primitive compared to what can be done with more robust tools available today. But it does give us a "glimpse" of how he might have looked before he aged into the twisted caricature we saw in "Genesis of the Daleks".

I've seen that before. Maybe it's just the haircut and the piercing blue eyes but he reminds me of Jeffrey Hunter as Captain Pike.

 

[Gingerbread Demon]

Wow so Davros would have been female had the other actress taken the role. That would have been great given the time period the show was made in.

 

[Timewalker]

Really? I'd have to rewatch the episode but I could have sworn that Tom Baker's cameo is while wearing the brown coat from his earlier stories, not the burgundy one from "Logopolis." I thought that the Tom Baker clip was taken from "Revenge of the Cybermen" or "The Invasion of Time" or something.

I apologize. I meant "Castrovalva." When Adric was in the web while the Master was forcing him to use his mathematical ability to manipulate Castrovalva, SuperDuperClara replaced him.

 

[publiusr]

In a recent Dr Who mag, Adric was saved... by Seb. Last page deal. Pretty funny

 

[Gingerbread Demon]

Hey not fixed points but what happens to relationships if the Timelord changes genders?

What happens if a female companion fell in love with a Timelord that is now a Timelady, and both parties are in agreement, only the Timelord talks about their past incarnations instead all the time? Is that doom for the relationship?

 

[Timewalker]

Hey not fixed points but what happens to relationships if the Timelord changes genders?

What happens if a female companion fell in love with a Timelord that is now a Timelady, and both parties are in agreement, only the Timelord talks about their past incarnations instead all the time? Is that doom for the relationship?

Someone has probably already written fanfic about it. There's an awful lot of Doctor/Companion stories on A Teaspoon and an Open Mind (website for Doctor Who fanfic). Some of it was... kinda NSFW. I hadn't really imagined the Fifth Doctor and Tegan like that, or the Fourth Doctor and Romana II...

The closest example we had to romantic feelings between Doctor and Companion (to my knowledge, since I never watched Capaldi's last season or any of Whittaker's era) is the Tenth Doctor and Rose (I don't really consider River Song a companion; she just kept turning up).

So if a female Doctor were able to meet up with Rose again, would the relationship work?

I have no idea. Either it will or it won't.

Besides, the Doctor usually references past incarnations in the aftermath of a regeneration, before everything settles down and the new personality kicks in. I suppose if (s)he and the companion had been in a relationship right before the regeneration, it might be a dealbreaker if the Doctor couldn't handle the change.

 

[Gingerbread Demon]

Someone has probably already written fanfic about it. There's an awful lot of Doctor/Companion stories on A Teaspoon and an Open Mind (website for Doctor Who fanfic). Some of it was... kinda NSFW. I hadn't really imagined the Fifth Doctor and Tegan like that, or the Fourth Doctor and Romana II... View attachment 21504

The closest example we had to romantic feelings between Doctor and Companion (to my knowledge, since I never watched Capaldi's last season or any of Whittaker's era) is the Tenth Doctor and Rose (I don't really consider River Song a companion; she just kept turning up).

So if a female Doctor were able to meet up with Rose again, would the relationship work?

I have no idea. Either it will or it won't.

Besides, the Doctor usually references past incarnations in the aftermath of a regeneration, before everything settles down and the new personality kicks in. I suppose if (s)he and the companion had been in a relationship right before the regeneration, it might be a dealbreaker if the Doctor couldn't handle the change.

Yeah there have been some really terrible fanfics out there and NSFW ones and there was one I read with 11 and Amy Pond doing it in the console room.

 

[The Wormhole]

Wow so Davros would have been female had the other actress taken the role. That would have been great given the time period the show was made in.

I don't follow. Where are you getting the idea that Davros would have been a female or that an actress would have been up for the role?

 

[Gingerbread Demon]

I don't follow. Where are you getting the idea that Davros would have been a female or that an actress would have been up for the role?

Someone mentioned above April Walker was originally supposed to be Davros.

 

[The Wormhole]

Someone mentioned above April Walker was originally supposed to be Davros.

No one said any such thing. diankra said April Walker was originally supposed to be Sarah Jane and that the original actor cast as Davros still remained a mystery with speculation it could be Richard Burton or Donald Burton in this post:

One of the few remaining mysteries (now we know April Walker was the original Sarah) is who was originally cast as Davros. Apparently a very prominent actor, who dropped out, leading to Michael Wisher taking over.
Richard Burton has been suggested. Donald Burton seems more likely.

Emphasis mine.

 

[Gingerbread Demon]

Oh sorry @The Wormhole I misread that post oops

 

[Redfern]

Oh sorry @The Wormhole I misread that post oops

Don't feel too bad; I misread that as well. I missed that pesky closing parenthesis.