Born With Teeth

[Kobayshi Maru]

Those ridged foreheads passing through can't be a pleasant experience.

The doctor didn't use the transporter this time, though.

 

[Sparkle Fabulosa]

He should have. Poor B'Elanna. I don't understand why every woman doesn't use the fetal transporter. Why go through all that unnecessary suffering?

 

[JanewayRulz!]

Because the physiological changes that occur as the baby descends the birth canal are actually helpful to the newborn, even in the 24th century. Its one of the reasons why natural childbirth is preferred to a C-section.

 

[hux]

I don't understand why every woman doesn't use the fetal transporter. Why go through all that unnecessary suffering?

A culturally enforced, internal sense of guilt over the whole apple giving incident. Apparently, it never goes away

Are Andorians born with those antennae?

 

[Catarina]

It's not cultural. It's a necessity.I studied the process of birth. There are more involved and c-sections are starting to show a detrimental effect on women's biology. What the body doesn't use it loses. If we don't allow oxytocin (hormone that begins labor, makes milk, bonds humans etc) to happen naturally we may evolve (de evolve) to need chemical and surgical intervention to get babies out. We also need oxytocin to heal mom's postpartum recovery. We shouldn't induce or inter fear in the process unless medically necessary to insure we don't produce offspring without this necessary hormone. Our continued avoidance and ignorance about birth could be our undoing generations from now.

 

[Catarina]

Indeed, it's a fictional show but I don,t like the idea of my molecules going through a transporter buffer. I am damned if my kid does. And this bull that she can't give birth because she got stuck thing has to stop. Get mom up to gravity and stop freaking her out (fear closes sphincters, people)and she'll expand enough for passage. The pelvis is a fascinating thing as are the reflexes but most of you probably don't want to know :-) of course their are real cases of big baby but alarmingly not as common as ignorance of birth. Docs are surgeons. Most don t care. women are mechanically more fascinating than they learned on school. Example: when a woman lays on her back legs up the rear of the pelvis narrows. And the baby has to figure out how to navigate upward through a smaller exit. You try wiggling out of a turtleneck without arms helping and away from gravity. You'd be stuck too. Okay I'm done now :-)

 

[kirkfan]

Because the physiological changes that occur as the baby descends the birth canal are actually helpful to the newborn, even in the 24th century. Its one of the reasons why natural childbirth is preferred to a C-section.

I think it has more to do with the trauma such a drastic surgical procedure does to a woman's body.

 

[JanewayRulz!]

Because the physiological changes that occur as the baby descends the birth canal are actually helpful to the newborn, even in the 24th century. Its one of the reasons why natural childbirth is preferred to a C-section.

I think it has more to do with the trauma such a drastic surgical procedure does to a woman's body.

The original conversation was about fetal transporters, so discussing the "trauma done to a woman's body" would not have made sense in that context.

 

[kirkfan]

Because the physiological changes that occur as the baby descends the birth canal are actually helpful to the newborn, even in the 24th century. Its one of the reasons why natural childbirth is preferred to a C-section.

I think it has more to do with the trauma such a drastic surgical procedure does to a woman's body.

The original conversation was about fetal transporters, so discussing the "trauma done to a woman's body" would not have made sense in that context.

In the context of performing a c-section on a woman, it does make sense though.

 

[Sparkle Fabulosa]

I get that giving birth naturally is better for both mom and baby but still I can't imagine EVER subjecting myself to all that. In my eyes, birth is a horror movie. Who was the idiot that decided how babies came into the world? When I was little I thought babies grew from flowers, like Thumbelina. If I ruled the universe it would so be that way!

 

[kirkfan]

I get that giving birth naturally is better for both mom and baby but still I can't imagine EVER subjecting myself to all that. In my eyes, birth is a horror movie. Who was the idiot that decided how babies came into the world? When I was little I thought babies grew from flowers, like Thumbelina. If I ruled the universe it would so be that way!

You may want to wait for the medical transporter then, because a c-section is not a good idea.

 

[Sparkle Fabulosa]

Another thing, do they have epidurals in the 24th century? Or something equivalent to it?

 

[kirkfan]

Another thing, do they have epidurals in the 24th century? Or something equivalent to it?

I am sure they do. B'Lana complains a lot but I am sure she chose to give birth this way, IE painfully.

It must have something to do with giving birth to the Klingon Messiah.

 

[Sparkle Fabulosa]

I get that giving birth naturally is better for both mom and baby but still I can't imagine EVER subjecting myself to all that. In my eyes, birth is a horror movie. Who was the idiot that decided how babies came into the world? When I was little I thought babies grew from flowers, like Thumbelina. If I ruled the universe it would so be that way!

You may want to wait for the medical transporter then, because a c-section is not a good idea.

That is what I plan to do! I just have to stay alive for the next couple hundred years.

 

[Sparkle Fabulosa]

Another thing, do they have epidurals in the 24th century? Or something equivalent to it?

I am sure they do. B'Lana complains a lot but I am sure she chose to give birth this way, IE painfully.

It must have something to do with giving birth to the Klingon Messiah.

I doubt Samantha Wildman got any painkillers either.

 

[kirkfan]

I get that giving birth naturally is better for both mom and baby but still I can't imagine EVER subjecting myself to all that. In my eyes, birth is a horror movie. Who was the idiot that decided how babies came into the world? When I was little I thought babies grew from flowers, like Thumbelina. If I ruled the universe it would so be that way!

You may want to wait for the medical transporter then, because a c-section is not a good idea.

That is what I plan to do! I just have to stay alive for the next couple hundred years.

 

[kirkfan]

Another thing, do they have epidurals in the 24th century? Or something equivalent to it?

I am sure they do. B'Lana complains a lot but I am sure she chose to give birth this way, IE painfully.

It must have something to do with giving birth to the Klingon Messiah.

I doubt Samantha Wildman got any painkillers either.

Not even the one who died...

 

[Catarina]

I watched Tinker belle with my kids and the fairies are born by a baby's first laugh. The Queen of seasons and Lord of Winter fell in love and longed to be together but would damage their wings in each other's season. I can rationalize it but I was feeling cynical that night and thought,Why be love sick if they as a mystical species don't bow-chica-wow wow?

 

[Sparkle Fabulosa]

^ I think because love is more than just about sex and seeing as they are magical beings, that kind of intimacy doesn't exist for them. I'm not an expert on "fairy intimate relations" though.

 

[hux]

It's not cultural. It's a necessity

The biblical explanation for pain in childbirth is a necessity?

Huh ?

As far as I'm concerned, by the time we get to the 22nd century, the phrase....."giving birth".....will be displaced by the phrase....."giving beam"