Ash vs Evil Dead (new tv series)

[RJDiogenes]

I liked Ash catching the keys with his face. Stupid and juvenile but made me laugh.

Yeah, that was a good one, too.

Ash deserves some happiness.

He does indeed. That was one of the things that was so depressing about Fisher's death. Underneath her law-enforcement demeanor and her drive to avenge her partner, she had the humor to appreciate Ash and actually responded to his silly come ons. Then she was gone.

That's the crux of the matter. Yes, he deserves happiness, but odds are, he'll never attain it. If he did, we'd lose a cornerstone of his basic character and a basic premise of the property would crumble. He's a blue collar Sisyphus forever doomed trying to roll the boulder up the hill only to have it crush him time and time again. If he ever found that happiness, it would only last because he's finally vanquished evil and that would pretty much conclude his "story".

Sorry, that got a bit more serious than I intended for this morbidly goofball material, but I hope you know what I mean.

You're right, and this is something creators frequently have to deal with. How do you evolve a character without losing the appeal of the character or violating the nature of the character as a literary device? The classic example I always use is Ben Grimm from the Fantastic Four. Readers love the character because they are touched by his plight and they want him to be able to control his change into the Thing so that he can find love and happiness-- but if he did so, he would lose that tragic appeal. Basically, with some characters, they can only find happiness at the end of their story, if even then.

 

[Beagleman]

Oh, how do I love Kelly her one-liners during the standoff... priceless.

 

[Mr. Adventure]

Oh, how do I love Kelly her one-liners during the standoff... priceless.

Kelly's my fave other than the main man. I liked her taking charge of Pablo's care as well. Nothing earth-shattering here but it delivered the goods in a very Evil Dead manner. Well, it would seem that should put an end to Ash vs. the town, I wonder if they'll come into play to help him at all down the road.

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With the attrition rate displayed I fear for Linda's well-being.

 

[Sparkle Fabulosa]

I suppose I would have known that Ash had a sister if I had seen Evil Dead.

Finally the residents of Elk Grove believe Ash!

I hope Pablo and Ruby don't die.

 

[Mr. Adventure]

I suppose I would have known that Ash had a sister if I had seen Evil Dead.

Same actress, too.

I was surprised to see them reference the infamous tree scene, I thought they've tried to forget about that as much as possible.

 

[Sparkle Fabulosa]

^ I have heard about the tree scene. Yikes.

Maybe one of these days I'll give Evil Dead a try and see how far I make it.

 

[Mr. Adventure]

^ I have heard about the tree scene. Yikes.

Maybe one of these days I'll give Evil Dead a try and see how far I make it.

Backwards as it sounds, I would start with Evil Dead II if you're squeamish. It's bloody like Ash vs Evil Dead but it's tempered with a lot of the same kind of humor which makes it easier to watch I think. Evil Dead is more straight horror but not really that scary IMO but it is nastier. I found the Evil Dead remake to be the hardest to watch from a horror perspective.

 

[Sparkle Fabulosa]

I've seen Evil Dead ll. It was somewhat difficult to get through. I much preferred Army of Darkness.

 

[Mr. Adventure]

I've seen Evil Dead ll. It was somewhat difficult to get through. I much preferred Army of Darkness.

Army of Darkness is so fun. From a purist standpoint the lack of gore probably makes it the "Roger Moore" entry of the franchise but I like his Bond movies too.

 

[Redfern]

Same actress, too.

Now that was a genuine surprise. I honestly did not expect to see Ellen Sandweiss except in clips from the original movie used as flashbacks. As she entered the hall and slowly approached the camera, I kept wondering, "Wait, is that the actress who played Cheryl in the first film?" Once she got close enough, I realized, "Holy crap! She is!!!"

I wonder how she felt about having to wear white, featureless contacts again. I suspect they were "relatively" more comfortable than what Raimi could access with the limited budget available for the first production.

 

[RJDiogenes]

The original Evil Dead was pretty intense compared to the show.

I was surprised to see the original Cheryl show up, all too briefly. Poor Ash. He's really had a rough time of it this season-- his dad, his sister (again), and also Chet. I was expecting both Brock and Chet to become regulars, or semi regulars, so those two deaths were a bit disappointing for me. I really hope Linda and Lacey survive to join Kelly and Pablo as part of the team. At this point, I hope Pablo survives to stay part of the team.

 

[Sparkle Fabulosa]

I feel like Brock and Chet were wasted as characters. But yes, I hope Linda and Lacey join Ash and co.

 

[RJDiogenes]

They were definitely wasted as characters. There's obviously going to be a high death toll on a show like this, but it's a shame to create characters like that, played by iconic actors, and then wipe them out.

 

[Mr. Adventure]

They were definitely wasted as characters. There's obviously going to be a high death toll on a show like this, but it's a shame to create characters like that, played by iconic actors, and then wipe them out.

Perhaps that comes from slavish devotion to the horror movie format not taking into account what would work better in a series. Even if you're going to kill them off it would have more impact if we were to get to know them better first. Give it a more "OMG, NO!" thing rather than "What? Really?".

 

[Kahless the Unforgettable]

It's strange. Give characters plot armor, people complain. Completely strip it away (from everyone other than the title character), people complain...

 

[RJDiogenes]

Perhaps that comes from slavish devotion to the horror movie format not taking into account what would work better in a series. Even if you're going to kill them off it would have more impact if we were to get to know them better first. Give it a more "OMG, NO!" thing rather than "What? Really?".

Plus the fact that killing major characters for shock value has become such a cliche.

 

[Sparkle Fabulosa]

This was a very creepy episode. It reminded me of Buffy's "Normal Again" but more insane.

 

[RJDiogenes]

Insane asylum stories always creep me out, and that Baal guy makes a good creepy doctor. And Kelly made a very good lunatic.

I think Ash is just playing along. When he was looking out the window, I think he saw Kelly, Pablo, and Ruby coming to rescue him. I'm just wondering if that was the real Linda or not.

 

[Beagleman]

Nice episode, the puppet was goofy/awesome.
On a side note, if they make an Amy Winehouse biopic in the near future the role should go to Dana DeLorenzo.

 

[Kahless the Unforgettable]

I want an Ashy Slashy puppet so bad now.