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Archer In Trek 08?

Babaganoosh said:
scotthm said:
The Voyager producers' decision to promote Janeway to Admiral
It was the writers of Nemesis who did that. FWIW.
Whoever made the decision, Admiral Janeway showed up in Voyager on May 23, 2001, and again in Nemesis on December 13, 2002.

pissed me off enough, but then to put her in their new movie just was the last straw.
It was originally supposed to be a cameo by Seven of Nine, not Janeway. Also FWIW.
Obviously someone connected with the movie felt that Janeway's presence would get a stronger reaction. It probably did.

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I suppose I have to say something about remaining on topic.
This thread really isn't for a debate on the merits of Janeway in Nemesis.
Why don't you guys start a thread in Trek Movies for that? I bet it'd be a popular topic.
 
*gives a manly pat on the back to Son_of Soong*
It's all good.
:thumbsup:

(See Kira's Mom or PKTrekGirl for that womanly touch.) :lol:
 
Now I've gone off track :-| Archer... Archer...

He could be like the replacement for Kirks... slow manner... of... speaking his lines..

Except Archer will do his usual pacing back and forth, but coz he is so old he will be walking very slowwwlyyyyyy.
 
Akiraprise said:
I suppose I have to say something about remaining on topic.
Quite right.

I don't feel the need to see Jonathan Archer in the new Star Trek movie. A subtle and offhand remark, or image, (probably) wouldn't hurt the film, but if they're in any way approaching a 'reboot' then I think booting out Enterprise from canon would be as good a place to start as any.

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"Enterprise" will not be rebooted out of canon because we know for a fact "Enterprise" will be referenced in Star Trek XI. We just don't know how. I personally don't think this movie is a reboot, anyway.

True, there is no need to have Archer in the movie, but what would the harm be? For fans of "Enterprise," it will be great. For people who don't care about Archer, just get over it. All five series will be referenced in this movie. I very much dislike DS9 and Voyager, but I'm not going to bitch about it. I didn't care for Janeway being in Nemesis, but I didn't lose sleep over it, either. If anything I was happy for the fans of Voyager who got that little gift (NOT valentine.) To the fans of those shows, enjoy what you will see in Trek XI.

I still think T'Pol has a much better chance of being in the movie. It's not like Jolene Blalock is doing anything. Scott Bakula is actually quite busy.
 
Captain59 said:
we know for a fact "Enterprise" will be referenced in Star Trek XI.
I don't know that for a fact.

True, there is no need to have Archer in the movie, but what would the harm be?
No intrinsic harm, it depends entirely on how it's worked out. The danger of including so many little references to all things Trek is that (to the knowledgable Star Trek fan) the movie will seem ridiculously contrived.

For fans of "Enterprise," it will be great. For people who don't care about Archer, just get over it.
And can you not likewise "just get over" Archer being absent?

I'm apparently not going to get to see William Shatner portray Captain Kirk one last time. I'm apparently not going to see the Enterprise in all its TOS glory (i.e. untainted by modern revisionism.) Why should you expect to see Jonathan Archer?

All five series will be referenced in this movie.
Oh, I hope not.

I'm not yet quite sure that TOS will be adequately referenced in this movie.

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scotthm said:
Captain59 said:
we know for a fact "Enterprise" will be referenced in Star Trek XI.
I don't know that for a fact.
All five series will be referenced in this movie.
Oh, I hope not.

I'm not yet quite sure that TOS will be adequately referenced in this movie.
Yes, we do know for a fact that Enterpise will be referenced. Here's what Roberto Orci said:

TrekMovie.com: You once told me that you will be putting in ‘continuity nuggets’ as little Easter eggs for the fans. Will some of those be related to the other series like TNG?


Roberto Orci: We got some TNG stuff in there for sure. I made sure of that. And there should be a little something from everything, but for me personally it is all about Next Generation and The Original Series because those are the shows that really set down the rules for Trek that the other shows picked up on. We are also trying to do a lot of what Enterprise was doing in terms of a prequel and some of the corners of Star Trek which were mainly defined by Deep Space Nine are covered to a certain degree.

TrekMovie.com: So are we talking about little references like the name of a ship, like the USS Archer in Star Trek Nemesis?

Roberto Orci: Our references are bigger than that and more pivotal to the story. But I love that little stuff too and we are doing that as well.
 
Wow, that does sound like fanwank. Like, you know, very small universe syndrome.

Eeeeew.

Hopefully it doesn't turn out as unnecessary as it sounds.
 
I'm apparently not going to get to see William Shatner portray Captain Kirk one last time. I'm apparently not going to see the Enterprise in all its TOS glory (i.e. untainted by modern revisionism.) Why should you expect to see Jonathan Archer?

Sounds like your saying that if you dont get what you want, noone else can either :-S
 
^ I don't make the rules about who gets what.

I'm saying that if TOS fans aren't getting what they want out of a TOS movie (and that remains to be seen), why should ST:Ent fans expect to get what they want from that very same movie.

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Well, TOS fans (and I include myself in that category, and speaking only for myself) are getting Leonard, himself, as his TOS character. We're getting new actors in familiar roles (Kirk, Spock, McCoy, ...). We're getting an Enterprise that, at least from the teaser, reasonably recreates the look of the TOS Enterprise. We are, from some reports at least, getting passing recreations of the TOS uniforms.

I don't mind that they throw ST:ENT fans a bone or two... particularly since the series purports to show events and characters that pre-date the events in TOS -- and, elements of the storyline, as suggested by the characters identified to date, are going to also pre-date the years portrayed in TOS.
 
The movie is called STAR TREK, not THE ORIGINAL SERIES. It might be based around the timeline of the Original series but that doesnt mean Enterprise cant get a mention or cameo.
 
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