You must be a big hit at the county fairs.
If we were all the same, life would quickly get boring.
You must be a big hit at the county fairs.
Considering my experiences in blisteringly hot porta-potties, I'll have to disagree on this lone point big guy.If we were all the same, life would quickly get boring.
Was attached to a show that ran four seasons. What’s the down side?Don't worry, this is the showrunner with Kurtzman for Starfleet Academy!
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Another Star Trek Discovery spin off with this level of talent will be a sure fire hit, just like the last one.
You know that pretty much the only time he had to get heavily involved in the day to day operation of a series, was Discovery, right? And that was only after he had to fire the showrunners. Beyond that and co-writing a few episodes, he's been pretty willing to let his showrunners have a pretty long leash.He's not involved with the day to day which is why it is good. A bit like Lower Decks. Or as soon as he fucked off from Picard.
Just curious what you think of shows like She-Hulk, Secret Invasion, Moon-Knight, etc. Shows that didn't get the greatest receptions. You know Fiege hired those showrunners too.Kevin Fiege thinking "man, I think I should try to get the guy in charge of this show for one of my shows".
Yeah, exclusive access has a funny way of changing someones opinion.Even YouTube channels that are set up to hate on stuff liked it.
They all feel like Star Trek in one way or another. Even Discovery. Even Section 31, in its own certain way.But the lads on here who think that having a show feel like and sound like Star Trek for once is bad.
You just described pretty much every series.Who would ever have thought setting your show on a Starfleet ship with the usual Star Trek tropes,
Or in the case of Picard season 3, ditching half the new and likeable characters in favour of returning geriatrics. Some of which were already dead. Twice.with a crew of likeable new characters who work together
Mostly taken from other films and series.and rousing music
Because Star Trek had never done time travel before, right?Which one is more STAR TREK to you
or
Is it one with the weird musical number in the 21st Century or the starship leaving stardock to a traditional Star Trek score
That one with the whales in 20th Century San Francisco was never Star Trek. And those hi jinxs.Because Star Trek had never done time travel before, right?
So... strange New Worlds?Who would ever have thought setting your show on a Starfleet ship with the usual Star Trek tropes, with a crew of likeable new characters who work together and rousing music would have people insist it feels like Star Trek.
You will watch your space Hitler redemption arc and subsequent movie you will like it.
With the exception of Disco S2, Kurtzman was not involved with the day to day of any of the shows.He's not involved with the day to day which is why it is good. A bit like Lower Decks. Or as soon as he fucked off from Picard.
The musical number is the scene I liked better and found to be more unique and memorable.Which one is more STAR TREK to you
or
Is it one with the weird musical number in the 21st Century or the starship leaving stardock to a traditional Star Trek score
You really have no clue how television works, and by god does it show.He's not involved with the day to day which is why it is good. A bit like Lower Decks. Or as soon as he fucked off from Picard.
God forbid Star Trek can’t evolve. It must be the exact same shape as it was in 1987. Or else we boycott!!!
Yeah, I think if it can’t evolve, it will be lost. Section 31 was a huge misfire. No doubt about that. But that doesn’t mean that if hasn’t been successful in some changes made over the years.
God forbid Star Trek can’t evolve. It must be the exact same shape as it was in 1987. Or else we boycott!!!
Star Trek has been ripping off other properties since 1964. It wouldn't exist with out what came before and what came after.1) Ripping-off "Suicide Squad" / "Guardians of the Galaxy" / "Mission: Impossible" / "Ocean's Eleven" is not "evolving Star Trek" and is not "change".
This is not just a problem with Section 31. This is a long-standing problem with NuTrek.
Discovery season 1: Mass Effect, Tardigrade game.
Picard season 1: Mass Effect 3
Discovery season 4: Arrival, StarCraft.
NuTrek is either nostalgia bait (SNW, LD, PRO) or it rips-off things from (relative) recent pop culture or other things from the recent Zeitgeist (TED talks Discovery season 1).
2) Stop excusing bad writing.
If Section 31 had at least been a good rip-off of "Suicide Squad" / "Guardians of the Galaxy" / "Mission: Impossible" / "Ocean's Eleven" with a clever script, we wouldn't have this discussion.
What we got with Section 31 is not even a good rip-off, or even a mediocre rip-off. It's abysmal (Same goes for NuTrek shows too).
Way too often arguments for "evolving" or "change" or "different" or "moving forward" are excuses for bad writing.
I see nothing wrong with Trek trying out different styles of story.1) Ripping-off "Suicide Squad" / "Guardians of the Galaxy" / "Mission: Impossible" / "Ocean's Eleven" is not "evolving Star Trek" and is not "change".
Speaking as a Mass Effect fan, these comparisons are reaching.This is not just a problem with Section 31. This is a long-standing problem with NuTrek.
Discovery season 1: Mass Effect, Tardigrade game.
Picard season 1: Mass Effect 3
Discovery season 4: Arrival, StarCraft.
The Enemy Below was less than 10 years old when Balance of Terror was filmed, so I guess ripping off thing from recent pop-culture is just something Trek has always done.NuTrek is either nostalgia bait (SNW, LD, PRO) or it rips-off things from (relative) recent pop culture or other things from the recent Zeitgeist (TED talks Discovery season 1).
Nah, you'd hate it.If Section 31 had at least been a good rip-off of "Suicide Squad" / "Guardians of the Galaxy" / "Mission: Impossible" / "Ocean's Eleven" with a clever script, we wouldn't have this discussion.
Ok.What we got with Section 31 is not even a good rip-off,
Ok.or even a mediocre rip-off
Everyone is entitled to their own opinions....It's abysmal
Even wrong ones like this...(Same goes for NuTrek shows too).
Yeah, Star Trek doesn't exist without Forbidden Planet, and "Balance of Terror" does not exist without The Enemy Below.
At least Fredric Brown got story credit and paid.And, we all know about “Arena”!![]()
So...Star Trek?NuTrek is either nostalgia bait (SNW, PIC S3, LD, PRO) or it rips-off things from (relative) recent pop culture or other things from the recent Zeitgeist (TED talks Discovery season 1).
1) Ripping-off "Suicide Squad" / "Guardians of the Galaxy" / "Mission: Impossible" / "Ocean's Eleven" is not "evolving Star Trek" and is not "change".
This is not just a problem with Section 31. This is a long-standing problem with NuTrek.
Discovery season 1: Mass Effect, Tardigrade game.
Picard season 1: Mass Effect 3
Discovery season 4: Arrival, StarCraft.
NuTrek is either nostalgia bait (SNW, PIC S3, LD, PRO) or it rips-off things from (relative) recent pop culture or other things from the recent Zeitgeist (TED talks Discovery season 1).
2) Stop excusing bad writing.
If Section 31 had at least been a good rip-off of "Suicide Squad" / "Guardians of the Galaxy" / "Mission: Impossible" / "Ocean's Eleven" with a clever script, we wouldn't have this discussion.
What we got with Section 31 is not even a good rip-off, or even a mediocre rip-off. It's abysmal (Same goes for NuTrek shows too).
Way too often arguments for "evolving" or "change" or "different" or "moving forward" are excuses for bad writing.